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Comment on YSK: A real American Civil war will NOT be like Battlefield or COD.

bigboismith@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

As another European, I don’t think it’s as bad as it seems. I personally don’t think most republicans are fundamentally fascist, more so convinced that Trump is playing 5d chess.

If you where to ask most Republicans if they supported democracy, right of law and freedom for all, they would say that they support it.

However, due to the tribalism of current American politics and the cult of personality around Trump, they aren’t seeing how that is being infringed.

Trump is almost 80, and will die eventually. With him will his cult of personality die. Some hardliners will probably latch on to Trump Jr or Vance, but most republicans will probably quietly switch over to supporting some more moderate dumb fuck (think Mitt Romney).

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michaelmrose@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Around 84% of Republicans approve of what is clearly kidnapping murder and open fascism as we are threatening half the world, planning on invading a NATO country, and stealing oil from Venezuela. Conservatives are absolutely our enemy.

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Jako302@feddit.org ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
It deosnt matter if trump dies, the Republican party has pretty mich made up their mind that there won’t be an election in the future.

They don’t care about public opinion anymore judging by everything they did in 2025 and all the rich oligarchs in america are either part of their club or are pressured to comply.

And with the epstine files pretty much out now the higher ranking Republicans are too scared to five up their power with the possibility of them getting prosecuted afterwards.

Even without Trump, the only way to get rid of the fascists will be to forcefully remove them which will end in a civil war.

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Triasha@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Hard disagree. The Republican politicians are not leading the masses to dark places, the masses are pulling the politicians to greater extremes and the politicians are holding them back, because they have a greater understanding of the consequences than the average voter.

Ask the average Republican if undocumented I’m immigrants should all be deported, and they will tell you yes. That’s 14 million people, and the only way to accomplish it is to build up ICE to 5 times it’s current size, and do what they are doing in Minneapolis in every city in America. What they want requires fascism.

Ask them if abortion is murder and they will say yes. They don’t care about the women that are dying from pregnancy complications, the children that will be orphaned, the families that have been torn apart because the treatment for many conditions is abortion of the pregnancy and if it’s murder you can get treatment.

Ask them if environmental regulations are too stiff and should be rolled back so the economy can grow, and they will say yes, they don’t care about the ecosystems that will be lost forever, the diseases that people will suffer from pollution, or the rights of communities to avoid those harms.

What holds them back is that individuals don’t all want the same things, so the party pulls in different directions, because some people understand the disaterous implications of a specific policy, so they don’t support that particular cruelty, but they don’t question the wider ideology, and the basic ideology is a death cult.

What you get over time is generational frustration that the corrupt politicians refuse to do what is necessary and support for more and more extreme individuals in office. People that hatch plans like the federalist society, to corrupt the courts, and project 2025, to destroy the administrative state and consolidate power into the executive, and congresspeople who will support the descent into violent fascism, because that’s what is required to give the masses what they demand.

Democracy slows down the process, but the American voters will get the cruelty, suffering, and death they demand eventually.

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- definitemaybe@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Right, but that all comes from upstream, with Conservative media (and politicians) focusing all their attention on “wedge issues” to distract their base from their ruinous fiscal policies, gutting the government services their base would benefit from to steal more wealth for the ultra wealthy.
  
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Strider@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Vance will be worse; in general the removal of Trump won’t make it better.

I dont have any words to add and hope you’re right.

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