Comment on Iran plans permanent break from global internet, say activists

vpol@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Russia’s already had this plan in the works for years. They call it “Sovereign internet”.

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  • vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Not really the thing, it’s more about censorship than full autonomy.

    I mean, if not for sanctions preventing one from using most (usually all) payment methods from Russia, such a disconnection would cause problems.

    Now it won’t, so yeah, living in Russia I pretty much can believe that even waking up one day in a countrywide version of Elektrostal town local forum instead of the Internet is possible.

    In that case I’m packing what stuff I need and leaving for any direction open. If there will be directions open.

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• DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  China too.

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  • floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Are you not aware of the great firewall?

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    • DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Different. Iran’s proposal would, if enacted, literally makes communications to the outside world impossible, since they are literally disconnecting the internet from the outside. It’s more like North Korea. In constrast, VPNs are still a thing in China… for now at least. Not every western site gets blocked. There’s a Chinese lemmy instance btw. Information flows in and out of China all the time.

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      • FauxLiving@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Exactly, China filters their Internet. Just like Facebook and Twitter do. Instead of being at the whims of two rich individuals it’s at the whim of the government.

        Not that one is better than the other, but US users experience the same (from a technical standpoint, no ideologically) kind of filtering but they’re not told that it is the great Zuck firewall or the great Elon firewall even though it is used in the same way to filter topics and ideas that the owner doesn’t like.

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      • Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        What’s the chinese lemmy instance?

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      • dantheclamman@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        China seems to vary. When I was there, VPNs worked, even Meta and Google sites were accessible on my T-mobile SIM. Other times those things are not accessible

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      • REDACTED@infosec.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        North Korea has connection to Russia, where they then connect to rest of the world. Otherwise they could not constantly hack everyone and steal cryptos

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  • vpol@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    China kinda did already. But they could make it official.

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    • SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Stop trying to make BRICS happen it’s not going to happen.

      Also it sounds like you want BRICS to be a group of country where they don’t have freedom of speech? Why would this be a good thing?

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      • vpol@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I don’t try.

        Just based on China, Iran, and Russia, it seems kinda logical for them to agree on the tech side of things (just to make it look like a big thing).

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