Comment on Iran plans permanent break from global internet, say activists

Sxan@piefed.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

• KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Piss?

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  • paris@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    That character is called a thorn and is pronounced as a “th” sound. It’s from Old English and fell out of use iirc, but some people like to use it

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    • KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I know, but when reading the comments, that’s all I saw.

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• circuscritic@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  P2P mesh systems aren’t a replacement for a loss of global internet connectivity from domestic ISPs, but satellite internet can be.

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  • Drew1718@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Except that the Iranian government has also been jamming satellite internet.

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    • circuscritic@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Are you saying that because they Iranian government has increased their satellite jamming capabilities, that all Iranian citizens should stop using satellite internet…?

      Or are you under the impression that because the government may be jamming signals in one, or multiple different locations, that they’re jamming all frequencies, in all places, at all times?

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      • Drew1718@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I’m saying that they’ve managed to reduce reliability of satellite internet from 80 down to 30 %. You don’t need that many locations if you can point a jammer at the satellite. There’s ways around the jamming for sure, but that still decreases the percentage of people able to do that.

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    • hector@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      It takes a lot of juice to jamn radio signals though, the farther away from where you are jambing the harder it becomes as I understand it, an inverse square root.

      Do you know how they jamn the satelites?

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      • Hule@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        It was something about base stations needing to know their own precise location. So they messed with the GPS signal.

        And it isn’t 100% effective, of course.

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  • willington@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Not if Elmo owns all the sattelites, then it won’t be the Internet.

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  • RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Satellite internet is not a good option, it’s easy to block and easy to spot people using it.

    Maintaining links to the global Internet is easier to do if you’re hiding your transmission inside other things, but that’s easier said than done.

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    • circuscritic@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      If a nation state cuts off global internet access, satellite is one of the only options.

      That doesn’t change just because it’s not ideal, or because governments have countermeasures.

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• DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  How an authoritarian government can counter this:

  Step 1: Make it illegal to use such devicea without a license.
  Step 2: Refuse to issue radio licenses except to maybe law enforcement and high ranking governmwnt officials
  Step 3: Triangulate “unauthorized users”
  Step 4: Mass arrests

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  • RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    You can hide an intermittent mesh networking device in anything with a solar panel, it’s not that easy to triangulate users if the communications are intermittent (although that itself doesn’t play nicely with consumer devices.

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    • willington@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Doesn’t triangulation depend on an antenna that broadcasts 360°?

      If the signal is silent in most of the space most of the time, it won’t be easy to find.

      Let’s say it transmits a directed 5° beam to 278° for 1 sec, then random seconds later to 96° for a sec, then after a random interval a beam to 28°, that won’t be fun to look for. Then after an hour of this it rests for 5 (also randomized) hours, while a different transmitter elsewhere takes over.

      Besides nobody says people should just sit passively while someone is triagulating them. We have been damn obedient all this time because we believed in the system. What if that belief goes away? Is everyone going to just volunteer obedience? Even if only a few break the norms, while the majority supports those resisters, at some point it will be too costly for the olygarchs to keep raping their way to trillions damned be the bottom 99.9%. The fucks have been ruling us on the back of a buy in from us. Only.

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    • WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      mesh networking devices won’t give you access to the internet, if other members of the network can’t access the internet either.

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      • RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        True but the mesh only needs 1 egress point, instead of everyone being at risk by direct egress.

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  • Allah@piefed.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    then we gotta work on DIY 3d printers then

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