Uh, agreed. I don’t believe I made the argument that we should do away with democracy. I certainly didn’t mean to.
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wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 3 days agoI still value democracy, while recognizing that the US is a shitshow right now. The americans who support democracy are not in favor of what’s going on right now.
Throwing out democracy because it’s being destroyed by a fascist in america is akin to throwing out the baby with the bath water.
Democracy is the baby. It’s fragile and helpless on it’s own, and requires attention and active participation from adults in order to be nurtured and grow. Fascism is the pile of dog shit the baby got into when the adults left the room. The baby just needs a bath.
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wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 day ago
Fair enough. I just meant cause I’m (unfortunately) american, but I’m not going to stop extolling democracy just because fascists are destroying it here
xxce2AAb@feddit.dk 1 day ago
No indeed, and you absolutely won’t hear me complain about it. I’m not religious, but if I had been I’d have said ‘bless you’. Instead, I’m just going to personally thank you for fighting the good fight. Keep it up! You’re one of the good ones.
Hopefully, one day we’ll be able to enjoy a nice BBQ together.
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 day ago
Ah, thank you. Honestly I’m already formulating an exit plan; if midterms aren’t administered fairly this year then all is lost.
Denmark is at the top of my list of places to try to live, but migrating permanently there seems like a challenge. I’m already studying Danish though, just in case.
hector@lemmy.today 3 days ago
I just had someone make one of those arguments. Because the west has liberal democracies, and they do a bunch of bullshit with israel, therefore liberal democracies are the problem, and seeing them fall to fascists, the same fascists doing the most of those things justifying their criticisms, is a good thing to them.
It fails reason but what argument doesn’t nowadays, just stupid tankie shit, they just want to make cheap points not help anyone.
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 3 days ago
Tankies are so exhausting to deal with. In my view, they’re as bad as maga. The two really seem to feed off each other.
hzl@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 days ago
The entire spirit of bickering about everything on the internet as if making some point or dunking on someone actually has some meaningful social value is exhausting regardless of the particular viewpoint being espoused. Like, yeah, if it’s dirt stupid and inherently destructive it’s worse, but I see the same sort of behavior from all sorts of different perspectives and none of it is good.
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 3 days ago
It’s almost impossible to have a good faith, rational debate on the internet. Logical validity and soundness go out the window the moment someone has to examine their biases and check whether their assumptions have been accurate.