Comment on Going to a Protest? Don't Bring Your Phone Without Doing This First

suicidaleggroll@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

• partial_accumen@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Shut off and leave your phone at home, buy a pay-as-you-go to bring with you for emergency contact /coordination

  Leave the pay-as-you-go phone powered off too, and only power it up if you actually have to use it. If you have to use it once, you need to get a replacement for a future event.

  I’m thinking perhaps something like Meshtastic transmitters and receivers should be used for coordination instead.

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  • 7U5K3N@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Meshtastic is exactly what needs to be implemented

    I ran across that instance the other day and immediately thought about coordination.

    It’s like sneaker net for piracy.

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    • itsathursday@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Fuck yeah, hack the planet

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  • Brkdncr@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Meshtastic is just as susceptible to listening and isn’t perfect at encryption or anonymity but should be another tool to consider when cellphone towers are down or otherwise unusable.

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    • floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      It’s alright for non-critical stuff. Ok for getting help, not the best for coordinating action.

      Reticulum is an alternative network/protocol that focuses more on security and interconnection of different networks

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• acosmichippo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  leave your phone ON at home.

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• Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Right? It’s like these guys have never seen The Wire.

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• FlexibleToast@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  I believe there are Bluetooth network protocols that mesh that would work for messaging and not require cell service. It would be smart to organize using something like that and just use any cell phone without cell service turned on. That still gives you the ability to call 911 in case of emergencies as well.

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  • adespoton@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Cell service is always turned on on a phone, even with no SaiM card and the phone in airplane mode, and for most phones, even when the phone is “off”. They still ping the local towers semi regularly; they just don’t ramp up transmission power ir try to establish a full connection.

    Anyone got a list of Bluetooth devices without a cell antenna where the BT MAC is regularly scrambled?

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    • FlexibleToast@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Does it matter if that cell service isn’t connected to a name?

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      • adespoton@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        No, because it will spend most of its time after leaving the store in your home.

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  • frongt@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    True, but if surveillance is your concern, they are monitoring Bluetooth devices too.

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    • FlexibleToast@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Does that matter? If it’s a device that you bought used just for this? There is no name attached to that device at that point. But it used on Craigslist, use it for the event, throw it away. It can be any cheap, crappy phone.

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  • throws_lemy@lemmy.nz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    You can use Briar, BitChat, or Bridgefy to communicate, without having internet connections. I’ve only tried Briar, which works with cell networks, wifi, also bluetooth.

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