Comment on Apple removes app created by Andrew Tate

• wagoner@infosec.pub ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Were you a user of this app? Why do you say it’s not a scam app? You seem to know it well enough, so hopefully you can answer.

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  • thecam@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I never used the app. However I know many tankies hate Andree Tate and Lemmy is full of tankies. I doubt a famous guy on the internet will start a scam app which will ruin his reputation. And seeing people get cancelled by tankies over snd over again with false accusations, I am sure the accusation of this app being a scam is false.

    Even if the app is a complete scam and Andrew Tate made it to scam his fans, sadly tankes online have zero credibility for making that accusation. Why should I trust lefties (a cult following) that cancelled so many people over false accusations in the past?

    Call me a fanboy if you want, I do not know much about the man. Even if Andrew Tate is a truly evil man, it is not my fault since the reputstion tankies have made when it comes to “he should be cancelled” is always due to absurb reasons and is fuelled with envy and hate.

    If you do not like my answer to this, fine. I do not care and thats your problem since cancel culture brought me to this conclusion. And I am against censorship in general which is known to piss off many tankies.

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    • wagoner@infosec.pub ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Tankies, lefties, and cancel culture, got it.

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    • FlyingSquid@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I doubt a famous guy on the internet will start a scam app which will ruin his reputation.

      Do you also doubt a famous guy on the internet would traffic women and then charge people a fee to learn how to traffic women? Because that’s what Andrew Tate did.

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• hedgehog@ttrpg.network ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  If the issue were his name, then it wouldn’t have made it on the App Store in the first place.

  Apple also removes social media apps that don’t meet their standards for moderation, so that’s already a thing. For example:

  • Twitter speculation
  • Parler removed

  Note that Apple didn’t remove “Truth Social” (though Google did) so this isn’t a political issue (it may be for Google, but I doubt it).

  Check out Apple’s App Store Review Guidelines. Personally, I approve of Apple protecting its users from scams and other dangerous content. There are a ton of things I’d love for them to be more open about allowing, but I’m fine with them banning apps like this one.

  Is your issue that you don’t like Apple’s requirements? If so, this app is an excellent point in their favor in most people’s eyes.

  Is your issue that you think Apple’s requirements are discriminatory in some way? If so, an app by a cis het white misogynist is probably not a great example of that.

  Do you think their standards were applied unfairly? If so, I find it hard to believe that you even read their guidelines.

  Honestly, I get the impression that you’re just a Tate fanboy and that you’re mad that Apple pulled his app.

  scam (which is not the case)

  I’m guessing you haven’t visited the website, because it screams “Scam!”

  no alternative way to install apps on iOS

  Apple users can install PWAs.

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  • thecam@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    cis het

    I stop reading after that since those are made up words.

    My two cents is that censorship is bad. Not many on lemmy get it since they see censorship as a weapon to use against their opponents. However censorship usually always gets out of control over time and that is why I oppose it.

    Android is the way to go since Android is censorship resistant to app store bannings by allowing APK sideloads and alternative app stores to Google Play.

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    • ASeriesOfPoorChoices@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      All words are made up.

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    • admin@lemmy.my-box.dev ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I stop reading after that since those are made up words.

      How did you manage to read any words before those?

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    • SphereofWreckening@ttrpg.network ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I stop reading after that since those are made up words.

      Ahh, so you’re a complete fucking moron then. Checks out since you’re defending Andrew “I moved to Romania so I wouldn’t be charged with rape” Tate.

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    • hedgehog@ttrpg.network ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I stopped reading because your entire comment is composed of made up words.

      Go fanboy somewhere else.

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• DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  If the app was banned due to it being a scam (which is not the case)

  The term “scam” is a straw man. “Scam” is subjective, so you could define a scam as “an app that provides no content and steals your money” and conclude that the app in question is not that, and therefore fine.

  The main assertion in the article is:

  the app deliberately targets young men and encourages misogyny, including members of the app sharing techniques on how to control and exploit women. The firm has also claimed that there is evidence to suggest that the app is an illegal pyramid scheme

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  • thecam@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The main assertion in the article is:

    It is a Guardian article. Not a trustworthy source, has a strong leftie bias and has been known to dox people in the past.

    Therefore, why should I take the article accusations seriously?

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    • DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Sorry I don’t really understand your position.

      You’re rejecting the quotes from the article on the basis of the publication, suggesting a better accusation would be a “scam”, and then refuting that accusation as baseless.

      I’m not trying to be an ass, I mean this as kindly as possible, but this is a straw man argument. You should look into logical fallacies. They’re well documented tactics for manipulating people and misrepresenting information. Everyone should. It will help you to reason about information and ultimately identify when you’re being manipulated.

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      • thecam@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I cannot imagine being blue pilled.

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