If you have a Wi-Fi router in your home you are technically already running a server. With OpenWRT even quite practically, although sadly most routers are slighly too underpowered to do much with them.
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AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 1 week ago
On the one hand I do support the existence of open-source self-hostable alternatives to surveillance-capitalist offerings. But at the same time it has been driving me crazy how many things are being shifted toward this server-based architecture. For one example, I want an open-source app that will allow me to import recipes from any text or website automatically. But I want those recipes to save in files, be offline, and I do not want to maintain a whole damn server just to manage my fucking recipes.
Not everything needs to be web connected by default, and most people have no interest in running any kind of server.
poVoq@slrpnk.net 6 days ago
AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 6 days ago
Those same routers that still have problems with security updates, and are frequently the targets of cyber attacks? So how is it in any way a good idea to run entire server stacks, and databases (which throw a wrench in data portability compared to standard file formats), creating so much bloat and unnecessary attack surface, and then making all of these apps network-facing - opening them up to attacks?
How about instead I just use a standard text editor to save my recipe as a markdown file, and if I need to move it I can either get a usb cord or use Syncthing? Sorry but this whole self host movement is pretty insane.
ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 6 days ago
I agree with most what you’re saying, I disagree with the last part of what you’re saying.
The self-host movement is about taking control away from companies, and running web services locally instead of having to rely on companies for them and pay for them. Most things you can run locally without needing a server, but there are absolutely good use cases for server-based services. Some great examples of this are cloud storage, code repositories, and chat servers. You could run each of those things locally, but they are each improved by running them on a dedicated server designed for 24/7 uptime and centralized access.
AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 5 days ago
My problem isn’t with open-source online services existing. Of course some things are inherently net-based. My problem is with the way everything is being done as a server even when it’s completely unnecessary. Syncthing alone - which is not server-based btw - is more than enough to take care of cloud needs for everything from calendars, to photos, recipes, text files, password databases, and more.
Hell, it’d actually be pretty interesting if someone did come up with a way to make a e2e chat client that works through Syncthing.
My point is I just want to download an app, have that app convert a recipe webpage into its own standard format, and then save that file on my own device. I do not want to deal with the hassle of getting Docker installed and working, nor to have it gobble up tons of computer resources just to do that one simple thing.
xorollo@leminal.space 6 days ago
If your recipes are formatted like markdown, then there are offline notes apps like Obsidian. The new issue becomes keeping your files backed up in case of whatever, and that’s when the self hosted server comes into play. This is a really good usecase for synching which can keep your small recipes files duplicated on your phone and your computer without ever leaving your network.
AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 5 days ago
Synthing does not use a server based architecture.