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Comment on Turing speculated that acting human would be the best indication of humanlike thought, but a better indication would be the inability to act otherwise.

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AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

In the original Turning test, the black box isn’t the machine—it’s the human. The test is to see whether a (known) machine is an accurate model of an unknown system.

While the tester is blind as to which is which, the experimenter knows the construction of the machine and can presumably tell if it’s artificially constraining itself. When I say “the inability to act otherwise”, I’m assuming the experimenter can distinguish a true inability from an induced one (even if the tester can’t).

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masterspace@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

While the tester is blind as to which is which, the experimenter knows the construction of the machine and can presumably tell if it’s artificially constraining itself.

In the case of intelligences and neural networks that is not so straight forward. The humans and machines that are behind the curtain have to be motivated to try and replicate a human, or the test would fail, whether that’s because a human control is unhelpful or because the machine isn’t bothering trying to replicate a human.

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- AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  
  The humans and machines that are behind the curtain have to be motivated to try and replicate a human
  
  In a Turing test, yes. What I’m suggesting is to change the motivation, to see if the machine fails like a human even when motivated not to.
  
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