Lol, “a Venezuelan who was born and raised in Venezuela, saw it fall in the hands of fascism, then moved to the U.S., got a Master’s degree, and had to take a U.S. civics test to become an American citizen, doesn’t know what he’s talking about”.
Sure, man.
anomnom@sh.itjust.works 4 days ago
You guys are arguing different points.
ICE will deport anyone it wants, papers or not.
Venezuelians with papers apparently don’t give a shit if they get deported.
These aren’t mutually exclusive facts.
elbarto777@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Thank you. That’s exactly my point. But apparently, non-Venezuelans are ready to tell me, a Venezuelan in his 40s, that I don’t know what I’m talking about.
flandish@lemmy.world 4 days ago
i’m saying thanks to the power dynamic here (think: “exploitation or stuff HR would frown at…”) - the dynamic existing means the folks cheering in the street cannot be considered truly cheering. it can only be considered, at best, an example of consent being manufactured thanks to that ICE enforced power dynamic. 😬
elbarto777@lemmy.world 4 days ago
And you would be wrong. Those Venezuelans cheering are honestly and extremely happy that Maduro is gone. They were the first ones to leave Venezuela when Chavez came into power.
flandish@lemmy.world 3 days ago
lemmy.world/post/41205013
flandish@lemmy.world 3 days ago
right. and i am glad working class people are happy. but that does not take away from the power dynamic that should not exist to begin with and should be abolished anyway.
the point is - we would feel for them more if the US did not behave the way it does. i don’t like or want dictators- Maduro and Trump alike.
the US should NOT try to police the world.