Comment on Snitches get switches

• TragicNotCute@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  I think the general idea is that you shouldn’t mess with conservation land. The general public isn’t educated enough to know what is invasive and what isn’t, so the rules say don’t disturb stuff. But if someone who was educated was in the park removing invasive species, they are almost certainly “breaking the rules”, but doing a net positive thing.

  So if you see it…you didn’t.

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  • Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    ls “conservation land” something special, then?
    English Wikipedia seems not to know it, and dictionary translated it to “Landschaftsschutzgebiet” in my language, which is like the most unprotective “protection” category there is.

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    • TragicNotCute@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      I’m from the states and I took this as “national park” (or perhaps state) land. It’s land intended for ecological conservation.

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      • Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        But in that case, pretending to be a blind prirate makes even less sense!

        From the National Park Service website:

        Report invasive species. Locating invasive species just as they are beginning to invade an area and treating new infestations quickly is a management approach called Early Detection Rapid Response (EDRR). In a national park, let a ranger know when you spot invasive species. They will want to know the location (GPS coordinates if possible), the name of the invasive species, when you saw it, and photos of the species.

        Thoroughly note it and report that stuff!

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    • Coldmoon@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Try using context clues for a brief second

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      • Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        I did, even did some additional research trying to clear up ambiguous terms (what’s a “conversation area”?) and looked up rules in another country (US) that was referenced by a less confused person.

        Meme still doesn’t make sense.
        Should even be the complete opposite.
        If you recognize it, report invasive species!

        If there are hidden context clues I missed, please point them out to me, so that I will learn why I am the moron and not some of the others here that post stuff that just don’t make sense given the facts.

        Is the original post perhaps satire?

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    • grue@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      It could mean anything from private land with an easement to prohibit building on it to a National Park, depending on context and jurisdiction. It’s just a non-specific term for “land that is conserved in some way.”

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      • Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Yeah, I guessed that much myself by now.

        So there is no deeper meaning but the meme is just crappily ill-defined and because of this actually doesn’t make sense.

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    • lvxferre@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      The nomenclature is really messy across countries and even sub-country entities. The Portuguese language Wikipedia even highlights the mess:

      Nomenclature diversity across countries. // Some surveys estimate protected areas in different countries and regions are called by at least a hundred names, and not uncommonly countries have their own categories of protected spaces, roughly similar to the protected space concept defined by the IUCN.

      From that I guess the restrictions associated with those spaces also change, and in some you aren’t supposed to remove local fauna and/or flora.

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    • smh@slrpnk.net ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Conservation land, in my area, is just land designated to not be developed. It might be privately owned and designated "conservation land* for tax benefits, or owned by the town, or what have you. Sometimes housing developers will designate part of their land plot as “conservation” for some benefit from the town (like taxes or zoning easement).

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      • Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        That definition fits what the Al told me when I asked it about the topic before.
        Seems to be similar to what many farmers here in the EU are doing: reserving some of their land for enviromental purposes in exchange for subsidies.

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    • SpikesOtherDog@ani.social ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Guess it’s lost in translation.

      Conservation land is a protected wild area. Sometimes it’s what we refer to as “the woods,” and not properly marked from a local standpoint.

      In my region, there are many county and state (vs federal in US) parks, with recreational areas and rules about how to interact with the wildlife. Greatparks.org.

      There are also private nature preserves, and those appear to us as hiking trails. www.cardinallandconservancy.org is an example.

      There are also smaller conversation areas. I know of a little bog about the size of a football field with a little sign saying it is maintained by the local college.

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      • Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Thanks for the detailed description how it is handled in your area, it’s actually interesting.
        Land protection in the US seems to be a bit more convoluted than here in Germany.
        And regulations surprisingly seem to be a bit more relaxed for the public (except for special protection zones, which are typically of limited size).

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  • cenzorrll@piefed.ca ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Some of it, at least with plants, is that the invasive species has taken over a niche of the native species. So in removing it, you alter the balance of the ecosystem. Native birds in an area may be at more risk than a native bush due to a loss in habitat, so it’s better to leave an invasive bush if it provides that need for the bird

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• sbeak@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  I am assuming “conservation areas” in this sense means native/indigenous lands

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  • Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    You are probably confusing it with “reservation”.

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    • sbeak@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      idk I was just guessing. I don’t see how the joke with ecological conservation (since getting rid of invasive species is good, right?)

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      • evasive_chimpanzee@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Usually, on land that is intended to be preserved, they don’t want random people hacking away at vegetation, so they will have rules about it. If a park ranger or someone like that sees you cutting down trees or whatever, you are probably going to get yelled at or fined or something.

        It’s also highly dependent on species and location. Some invasive species will basically multiply if you try to tear them out, either resprouting vegetatively, or through seed spread. Species like tree-of-heaven or paulonia also become huge trees, so they probably don’t want you cutting those down.

        Some places like Oahu are basically 95% invasive species, so if you remove that, you have nothing left. Oahu is basically all guava and mesquite trees, and without that, the soil washes away, and there’s no hope of recovery, so invasive management needs to be done in consultation with experts.

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      • Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Same here.
        Meme is imho somewhat crappy and certainly to un-scientific to be under “science memes”.

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  • jerkface@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    lol no

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