Comment on Why, as a male, when emotionally do I only feel accepted by women but not by men?

• monkeytennis@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  You missed my point. I’m ignoring nothing, I’m suggesting OP seek out men who will be supportive, because they’re not hard to find.

  I’m certain I could find studies as proof, but don’t we all already know this to be true?

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• dumdum666@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Yeah. Provide studies.

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  • NightAuthor@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Here’s one that cites multiple others right in the intro.

    scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C3…

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    • dumdum666@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I picked the first three results from your search and they don’t support your argument at all. They even call it out as a stereotype (which it is).

      Male leaders received lower effectiveness ratings when expressing sadness compared to neutrality, while female leaders received lower ratings when expressing either sadness or anger.

      So sadness for leaders is neither ok for women or men.

      https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/(SICI)1099-1379(200003)21:2%3C221::AID-JOB36%3E3.0.CO;2-0

      Design: Questionnaires were administered to 41 women and 41 men using a cross-sectional study design.

      Rather small sample size and the conclusion was very cautiously worded … so no facts that support your theory.

      https://bpspsychub.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1348/135910703322370851

      The analysis of emoticon (emotional icon) use in online newsgroups appears to reinforce the stereotype of the emotional female and the inexpressive male until further examination suggests otherwise. The most interesting finding of this study is illustrated by the pattern of change that develops for both genders when they move from a predominantly same gender newsgroup to a mixed-gender newsgroup. The changes that take place in emoticon use when moving from same-gender to mixed-gender newsgroups indicate that rather than the emotional expression of females being silenced or muted by male encoding of emoticons, males adopt the female standard of expressing more emotion. Furthermore, women have added dimensions including solidarity, support, assertion of positive feelings, and thanks, which were absent from the male-created definition of emoticons and their use.

      No proof for your theory either.

      https://www.liebertpub.com/doi/abs/10.1089/10949310050191809

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      • NightAuthor@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I may come back and review some more of the literature, because it really is an interesting topic.

        Your last citation there actually seems relevant to OP, since they’re asking about this difference in how they feel around other men vs in mixed groups.

        It would be useful to know if there are indeed more studies like this that maybe show that the stereotype (which aren’t inherently wrong or negative) is too vague, and i would like to know the specifics, maybe the stereotype only holds in male-dominant spaces. Or (and I think I’ve read this) when males are primed to act more masculine.

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