Comment on Cory Doctorow proposes how to break free from US digital domination
kbal@fedia.io 4 weeks ago
It's obviously the right idea, Cory's been saying it to anyone who will listen for months if not years, but it would depend on governments doing something. How can it possibly happen then, if there aren't powerful corporate interests hiring lobbyists to say it in a way that politicians can hear?
I’m not sure how far you read, but he argues that it would only take one country’s legislature to set this off and reap the rewards of nurturing a fully open alternative to the US big-tech stack.
With the US pissing off pretty much everyone else and losing allies by the day, it will only be a matter of time before the doors are blown open on this.
It’s a speech. He has a hypothesis at best, and expertly lays out one way for it to go.
If one country did it, they’d try to give them the Venezuela treatment.
Don’t get me wrong, I think the overall concept has incredible legs, but the finer details of tit-for-tat and retaliation aren’t quite fleshed out.
It’s why things have to happen in a certain order. You can’t do the more aggressive economic actions against the US until after certain conditions are in place. First you need to cut dependency on the US for anything essential. Food and strategic resources like aluminum, steel, and energy. You also need a strong enough military to make any US military action costly for the US.
Once those conditions are met you can take further action. Hitting the US tech sector is more of a middle option. Manipulating the US bond market is the nuclear option.
Currently these options aren’t on the table since the US can kick out the legs of that table if you tried to play those cards. But many things are quietly changing around the world while Americans are obsessing over Epstein files, Trump playing battleship, and Hegseth and Rubio fucking around with tinpot South American dictators.
But many things are quietly changing around the world while Americans
But many things are quietly changing around the world by Americans
Trump is not a lone mad man. Consider that the US can have coordinated their steps with western elites. E.g. why else would they have reacted indifferent to Venezuela?
Yeah, he’s been doing this stuff since I first read about him in 2010 or so; yet now, thanks to Trump lol, things look differently.
things look differently…
… to the masses. That’s why we are getting chat control.
Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
Be the change you want to see: start lobbying government for it.
salacious_coaster@feddit.online 4 weeks ago
“Say it in a way politicians can hear” means bribes. You got politician bribe money sitting around? I don’t.
JoshuaFalken@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
It surprises me from time to time just how cheap some of these politicians sell out for. If I could get together with my neighbours all contributing $50 and buy a legislator or two, we could probably get funds for a stadium.
thisorthatorwhatever@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
“The former Royal Bank of Scotland submitter who was offered sushi rolls in exchange for helping try to rig the Libor rate-setting process has been banned by the UK’s financial regulator.” ft.com/…/23868e36-0095-11e6-ac98-3c15a1aa2e62
osaerisxero@kbin.melroy.org 4 weeks ago
That's because that's actually just the down payment. The recurring comes from board seats and roles in name only later down the line.
boatswain@infosec.pub 4 weeks ago
Who wants a stadium, though? Those things are a blight.
trajekolus@piefed.social 4 weeks ago
This is just defeatism. Not all politicians are corrupt. And even corrupt ones also have to respond to other kinds of pressures, if those are strong enough. Defeatism is what makes democracy die.
ripcord@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
You and a bunch of other people together do. You’re not changing anything on your own.
jjlinux@lemmy.zip 4 weeks ago
That’s the type of mentality that keeps individuals from even attempting to build a large gathering of like-minded people to actually push for a change. Yeah, I’m not doing any kind of damage by myself, but that should not keep me from trying, and asking others to also try. Fuck that defeatist mindset.
plyth@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
Would you have $100 for your future? The population could bring the bribes.