Comment on Japan’s Birth Rate Set to Break Even the Bleakest Forecasts

• TheBat@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Cool. Should they?

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  • whoisearth@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Yes.

    I was watching a YouTube video yesterday with Jimmy Carr and I think he summarized it perfectly.

    As humans we are amazing at quantifying all the negatives around having kids (costs, time constraints, behaviour changes) but we struggle at quantifying the positives (purpose, accountability, pride, humility).

    My regret is having kids later in life and not in my early 20’s. The little secret we all know is you’re never ready for kids. You either dive in or you don’t. After that? In for a penny, in for a pound.

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    • TheBat@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Cool. I disagree. You want to subject your kids to climate change then go ahead.

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      • FosterMolasses@leminal.space ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Climate change is going to be the least of the next generation’s worries.

        At least they won’t freeze to death outside in winter when likely none of them will have houses, jobs or access to healthcare (aside from the ones with access to inheritance of course).

        Climate change alone is an absurd reason to advocate for antinatalism.

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      • whoisearth@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        And we are allowed to disagree. That doesn’t however make your opinion any more valid. You can’t hold hands when you make fists.

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    • AtariDump@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      My regret is having kids later in life and not in my early 20’s.

      Reeks of boomer who doesn’t appreciate their kids.

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      • whoisearth@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        GenX actually (48) and I have 3 kids I tell them I love them daily. 2 are on the spectrum and 1 realistically will never become an independent adult.

        Your comment reeks of someone who grew up entitled and has never learned how to walk a mile in someone else’s shoes.

        Those who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.

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• cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I’m sure those kids all come out great and very alive.

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  • whoisearth@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    So myopic.

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    • cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Neglect is very healthy for a child.make sure yours gets enough!

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      • whoisearth@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Assuming that kids living in poorer parts of the world are neglected. Spoken like someone who has never once faced adversity in life.

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• Puddinghelmet@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  “People do it all over the world.” False it should be “Uneducated people do it all over the world” Look into geography and sociology and let me know why it is that uneducated poor people usually get more children :D

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  • whoisearth@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Lol uneducated does not mean dumb.

    I stand by what I said.

    The future lies in those “uneducated” people.

    Everything about this whole thread screams privileged white people who haven’t known an ounce of struggle in their lives and all of a sudden things get a little tight that they can’t buy butter instead of margarine and holy hell the sky is falling!

    This is why all my friends now are immigrants lol.

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    • Puddinghelmet@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Birth rates usually don’t fall because people don’t want kids, but because:

      • housing is too expensive
      • work and family are hard to combine
      • childcare isn’t well organized
      • there’s too little security Countries like France and the Scandinavian nations do better:
      • affordable childcare
      • parental leave
      • flexible work
      • stable housing certainty Result: higher birth rates than Japan, Italy, Spain, and formerly Germany.
If you want a “younger” society → invest structurally in good family life.

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      • cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        I’m a high school dropout and I knew this shit. Dumbass has no excuse.

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      • whoisearth@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Go into any rural and/or poor area in America or Canada and you’ll find poor uneducated people and they’re having kids just fine even in wealthy countries with a lot of environmental factors pushing against it.

        It’s a matter of want. Own your decision don’t blame it on external factors. If you want to blame external factors for your not having kids you’re weak. My girlfriend is Kenyan. She has a 11 year old son back home she hasn’t seen in a year. She had a kid in a small rural town halfway around the world and moved to Canada to make a better life for her and her family. You know what she’s never done? Push blame outwards.

        Yes, structurally we can be doing a lot better to make it easier and more attractive for people to have kids but that was and is not my point. My point is if you want kids just fucking do it. The reward far outweighs the risk and long term you’re going to be much, much better off because you’ve just grown your team.

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    • cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      immigrants

      Oh shit! There’s another solution!

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