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abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 hours ago
Who wants to burst the bubbles of Star Wars fans?
The Millennium Falcon could not stand up against any of the Star Trek Hero-ships. None of them. Zero, Zultch, Neoni.
- NX01 Enterprise: Might be a fair match due to lack of proper shields, but the NX01 could still one shot The Falcon.
- USS Discovery (either original or “A”): One Shot, Ship literally is a research vessel repurposed for war. it’ll still oneshot The Falcon.
- Enterprise (OG or A): One shot. Not even close.
- Enterprise D: Wouldn’t even need to oneshot you, will disable your weapons and engines and then bring you in to figure out what the fuck you are.
- Defiant: Literally built for war. Won’t fuck around, one shot.
- DS9: DS9 can one shot the Falcon, but I think DS9 would be a destination for the Falcon.
- Ceritos: Will shoot the Falcon down, and then someone will go “what the fuck was that”.
- Protostar: LITERALLY PILOTED BY FREAKIN’ TEENAGERS! Would still body the Falcon.
- La Serena: Closest narratively to the Falcon. Might stand a cha…what am I kidding, bodies it.
- Federation headquarters (32nd Century): Bodies it, wouldn’t have to because it’s surrounded by ships who alone could Body the Falcon.
In fact, every single ship on this list except for maybe the NX01 wouldn’t even need to fire a shot because they could just get a transporter lock, and teleport everyone off the ship and then grab it with a tractor beam. Everyone. Han, Chewie, Luke, Leia, Finn, Poe, Rei, everyone. They can be beamed directly to the Brig to make sure they don’t do anything stupid, and whoever the captain is (I’m going for Pike because he’s my favourite) can some down and be all “Hey, you were firing at my ship with a peashooter, don’t worry, it’s unharmed, strange ship, doesn’t have Warp or shields or anything. You all seem human except for the big guy there, we don’t have your species in our database. Want a drink of something? The replicator can make anything you’d like.”
Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 hours ago
abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 hours ago
Well the question was “Millennium Falcon vs Enterprise”.
As for say, any Star Trek Hero ship against a Star Dreadnought like an Assertor Class or Procurator, then it’s a challenge. I think in that case, one of the only ships that could stand a chance is maybe the Defiant purely because it’s made for the Hit-and-run tactics that those ships are weak against.
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 53 minutes ago
My favorite is Death Star vs Borg Cube. A couple years ago I wrote this whole big thing about which would win, but it boils down to:
Death Star victory, IF they hit the cube with a full turbolaser shot, and then jump to hyperdrive immediately before any surviving drones slap into the Death Star’s hull.
Borg victory if the cube is only mostly destroyed and they stick around long enough for surviving drones to get a foothold.
Tau’ri victory when SG-1 rings aboard with three men, one woman, four P-90s and a kilogram of naquadria. They take out the death star by dropping a couple of hand grenades down the power core, and then they hijack a TIE fighter over to the Borg Cube where they blow up the queen. Daniel Jackson is killed a couple times but it’s okay he gets better.
Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 hours ago
Ouch missed that!
Thrawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 hours ago
Ugh I guess I’m going to be this type of fan.
I like both universes but the “they will just get a transporter lock and teleport everyone” is an awful argument that shows a very bad lack of understanding of Star Trek.
There are hundreds of examples of transporters not working. Shields which even the tiny falcon does have are a constant example. Even past that there are tons of other cases. They don’t work in storms, through thick rock, through unusual armor/metal, around jamming which is used basically universally in Star Wars on anything larger or more expensive than a Tie Fighter.
Those are just the ones off the top of my head and there are at least a dozen more. It is one of the top plot lines used in every series.
In a fight the falcon just runs away since even mid grade Star Wars ships have radically faster FTL.
Now if you ignore the running away yes the tiny falcon probably does lose to most or maybe even all of the Trek hero ships. It is a smuggler ship that can just run past blockades if it gets flagged.
Actual combat ships are far harder to figure out. Star Wars deals with a massively larger scale of ship size, total energy output, and FTL speed. At first glance that seems like an obvious win and in a full galaxy scale conflict probably does go to Star Wars.
But any single ship to ship combat especially with the hero ships the range of gadgets/tricks on the Star Trek side is massively in their favor. The rate they pick up tech charges probably would largely even out the tech difference in a galaxy wide fight as well. However that doesn’t solve the scale difference. Maybe convince the Borg to produce ships with stolen FTL and hypermatter reactors