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TrickDacy@lemmy.world 7 hours agoInteresting take…
Another relevant twist of the knife on the Linux side is thunderbird not having a tray icon
What would you need one for?
What is the purpose of an email client that doesn’t stay running 24/7?
Genuinely confused here. To receive email? What’s the purpose of leaving it running all the time? The only difference in the setup I have and what you seem to want is that instead of clicking an email icon on the dock and waiting ~1second, you want to see a notification in the tray? Given that email is 90% noise no matter how many things I unsubscribe from, the last thing I want is a constant stream of notifications on yet another device.
I feel like specifically because I run Linux all my apps launch faster so yes I prefer to close them when not in use. Feels a lot cleaner for my mental model. Don’t get me wrong, I often run 6-8 apps at a time if I need to. But even then I don’t think I go much beyond 8 GB of ram used, unless I’m gaming.
uncouple9831@lemmy.zip 7 hours ago
You’re only getting a notification if the program is running 24/7. You seem to be contradicting yourself here. The purpose of a tray icon is to provide a hook into a running background service which can provide notifications, status, and pop up a display if needed, without rendering a full window at all times. Mac accomplishes the same concept with both tray icons and their dock, but it isn’t actually any different. Linux has plenty of things with tray icons which implement this concept, thunderbird does not. Your distaste for email is not really relevant so I’m going to skip past that – I still want to get emails when they arrive, and for that to happen there needs to be a service running. Thunderbird for windows meets the above requirements, thunderbird for Linux does not, it’s simple as that. I was using this as an illustration agreeing with your claims that the philosophy is different between the OSs. On Mac, everything is a service and windows are optional. On Linux and windows it’s more of a choice that each program makes, but on Linux it does lean towards fewer background tasks. Including, in this case, getting email notifications.
I can easily get to 10G in a browser alone thanks to their philosophy of burning through ram.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
I’m not contradicting myself and I understood all that. You didn’t get what I was saying.
I was simply saying that you want something I’d never want. Has nothing to do with a distaste for email. Has to do with adding stress to my life while also using my system resources. And I was pointing out the only non-stress difference is I have to click once to open my email and it loads very fast. I wouldn’t see any value in what you see as a minimum requirement. I’d actually go to a lot of trouble to disable that if it were on by default lol
It sounds like you’re a person who not only uses chrome but also dozens or hundreds of tabs. I’m opposite to all that. I stand by my claim that Linux performs far better and I suspect I’d think so even if I wanted to run a lot of ram hungry apps at the same time tbh, because I just haven’t experienced literally anything you’re saying.