Comment on Why aren't advertisers (Microsoft, Facebook, Google) held responsible for allowing scammy adverts?
ICastFist@programming.dev 1 year ago“I don’t have a problem with what you presented, you should do what I do and forget about it”
Call me when your apathy solves a problem to someone else
BolexForSoup@kbin.social 1 year ago
Apathy? He installed a simple solution to the problem and is telling others to do so.
Z3k3@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Web Integrity API enters the chat
BolexForSoup@kbin.social 1 year ago
So I consider myself decently tech savvy, and I think I have my head wrapped around what WEI does, but could someone give me a decent analogy for it so I can help explain why it’s bad to other people? I feel like I have a 90% understanding so it’s keeping me from coming up with a good description or analogy.
Z3k3@lemmy.world 1 year ago
The docs I read (and yes like you my job relies on me being vaguely tech savey) but someone else can correct me ehere I go wrong
Server sends you app data e.g.youtube.
You receive app data but have extentions that fiddle with data. Not necessarily ad blocker could be any tamper monkey script or a relatively unknown accessibility extension that makes the page palatable.
Browser runs off to authorised entity e.g. Google but they are proposing others (all others I have seen named are big corporate cunts like ms and fb)
They check what’s on your screen and if what’s on the page matches what was sent we all good. If not they can block your access.
dannoffs@lemmy.sdf.org 1 year ago
Completely selfishly I’m not too mad about the web integrity thing because I hate ads so much that if I were forced to see them I would use the Internet less which would probably be good.
Z3k3@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Who knows that may be the up shot.
We all IMHO use it way too much these days especially me.
Hell it’s gotten so bad that years ago I found out my dad was in hospital via a fecking Facebook Post that said something along the lines of welp the surgery went well.
ICastFist@programming.dev 1 year ago
The problem: companies profit by advertising shit that’s barely legal
The solution: “install an adblock lol”
Explain to me how that solves the problem
“You don’t see the ads anymore”
Yet the company is still profitting and anyone without adblock still sees it. It’s the equivalent of closing your eyes to a problem.
BolexForSoup@kbin.social 1 year ago
Ok but realistically, what can you do right now? It’s not like you can only do one thing. In the immediate and personally-focused term, you can do an adblocker. If you want to change the world, you can do that too. But that’s not apathy. You’re just acting like promoting adblockers comes at the expense of meaningful change. That’s ridiculous.
ICastFist@programming.dev 1 year ago
You should’ve lead with that instead of just “use an adblock”, completely skirting the actual problem. The way you first commented was apathetic.
That would make sense if the discussion wasn’t targeted specifically at the responsible companies. It’s the same thing as saying “use Linux” whenever a complaint about windows shows up.
Just in case it’s not clear, the way you reply makes all the difference in how you’re interpreted. “I use adblock and so should you”
!=“these companies profit off it, it’s why everyone should use an adblock”