As a moderator, one of my duties is to remove comments that are unnecessarily hostile, personal, and/or non-productive. The vast majority of accusations of fascism that I have seen here are unwarranted and needlessly inflammatory.
I don’t like the hexbear community at all, but jumping straight to accusations of fascism is counterproductive in the extreme. Hexbear users are guilty of brigading, arguing in bad faith, trolling, racism, advocating for violence, and supporting authoritarian regimes, but its quite simply incorrect to describe them as a far right ultranationalist group.
I removed many comments throughout that fiasco, and the vast majority were from hexbears.
That’s not a counterpoint, it’s a non-sequitor that’s both factually inaccurate and inflammatory. They verifiably did call out “racism” (Winnie the pooh memes) and “bigotry” (crazy is an ableist slur) when they were federated.
A counter point would be to clarify that their criticism of bigotry is not genuine, but instead is merely a tactic to shame ideological opponents. They allow rampant bigotry within their own community, but adopt a zero tolerance policy when it comes to other communities.
Their definition of bigotry is entirely arbitrary and political and has no moral or philosophical underpinning, and is therefore meaningless.
The difference being that my response actually acknowledges the point and proceeds to explain why the comment is incorrect, while yours simply ignores the point and declares them to be fascists.
Your comment is exactly the same type of response that hexbears often give, which is why I removed it.
No hard feelings, I totally understand why you would respond like that when being trolled and brigaded by those clowns. But I was just trying to be objective and hold everyone to the same standard.
imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Can you provide a link?
As a moderator, one of my duties is to remove comments that are unnecessarily hostile, personal, and/or non-productive. The vast majority of accusations of fascism that I have seen here are unwarranted and needlessly inflammatory.
I don’t like the hexbear community at all, but jumping straight to accusations of fascism is counterproductive in the extreme. Hexbear users are guilty of brigading, arguing in bad faith, trolling, racism, advocating for violence, and supporting authoritarian regimes, but its quite simply incorrect to describe them as a far right ultranationalist group.
I removed many comments throughout that fiasco, and the vast majority were from hexbears.
cwagner@lemmy.cwagner.me 1 year ago
imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
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That’s not a counterpoint, it’s a non-sequitor that’s both factually inaccurate and inflammatory. They verifiably did call out “racism” (Winnie the pooh memes) and “bigotry” (crazy is an ableist slur) when they were federated.
A counter point would be to clarify that their criticism of bigotry is not genuine, but instead is merely a tactic to shame ideological opponents. They allow rampant bigotry within their own community, but adopt a zero tolerance policy when it comes to other communities.
Their definition of bigotry is entirely arbitrary and political and has no moral or philosophical underpinning, and is therefore meaningless.
The difference being that my response actually acknowledges the point and proceeds to explain why the comment is incorrect, while yours simply ignores the point and declares them to be fascists.
Your comment is exactly the same type of response that hexbears often give, which is why I removed it.
No hard feelings, I totally understand why you would respond like that when being trolled and brigaded by those clowns. But I was just trying to be objective and hold everyone to the same standard.
Lauchs@lemmy.world 1 year ago
That is a fantastic explanation of a mod decision. Thanks for the explanation and for the work you’re doing!
cwagner@lemmy.cwagner.me 1 year ago