Better than a million feral humans sent back to live as animals in urban nature and corrupt wage slavery for pirate banker commodity housing, not to mention the Flock-You surveillance state that is stealing citizenship and democracy right now. When Citizen is functionally equivalent to Slave, China looks far better. "You will own nothing and be happy about it.” -because slaves that speak up find themselves dead. I’ll take a sweatshop over this corruption any day.
Eldritch@piefed.world 17 hours ago
Nearly everything you mentioned there could be said about China as well though. So, how? In what way does it make China look better? Serious question. And not a defense of the west out the US.
ragica@lemmy.ml 15 hours ago
There is a general perception now with many in the US and even more among the US’s partners that the US government is now actively regressive, making life more difficult for most of its citizens and partners, and indeed the world. China, despite its shortcomings, is mostly seen as making progress at raising living standards, moving more towards being environmentally responsible, and as a stable and predictable partner.
Whatever the complicated on the ground realities, these are some of the ways that make China currently seem to look better too many. Since you ask.
Eldritch@piefed.world 12 hours ago
In tank space sure. But not in any non-hypocrical space. Again everything you implied about China could be said about the US.
However, it was industrialization brought up living standards. Not any particular party or ideology. In every different government and economic system industrialization has been pushed, it has benefited the population. And industrialization doesn’t make up for the oppression and abuses that said parties or ideologies commit while industrializing.
The fact that industrialization raised the standard of living in the US doesn’t justify their theft of my ancestors land or culture. Or the enslavement of blacks. It certainly doesn’t excuse or justify China’s oppression or cultural erasure of the uhygers. Tibetans or Hong Kongers as well. If you think it does or deny their abuse you’re just a hypocrite. 🤷
Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 minutes ago
If industrialization raises up a population, financialization plunges them.
Corporations in the US are seeing the highest profits they’ve ever seen in history. Wage theft has never been worse. Income disparity is widening more and more every year without any prospect of redistribution in sight.
Corporations in China, however, are folded into the state as soon as they get too large. Corporate profits are collected by the state and redistributed to the population. China has many more protections to prevent it from choosing greed and sacrificing the working people than the US.
I want what’s happening in China to happen to us in America.