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cosmic_slate@dmv.social 1 year ago
I raised a somewhat controversial concern earlier this week in this community about substantive content that makes Lemmy feel — forgive me fediverse gods — boring.
Being globally distributed is a brilliant technology goal but more focus needs to be placed on the human/community aspect. In many ways, I respect the efforts some moderation efforts have helped guide this so far.
Being a stronger online forum with meaningful discussion will help smooth over a lot of software issues.
cwagner@lemmy.cwagner.me 1 year ago
[deleted]imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Specifically, what have I done that you take such issue with? Or if there is another admin you’d like to criticize, go ahead and speak your piece.
I’d hate people to get the wrong idea about Lemmy admins, whom I have found to be largely selfless and altruistic in their actions and motivations.
cwagner@lemmy.cwagner.me 1 year ago
[deleted]imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Can you provide a link?
As a moderator, one of my duties is to remove comments that are unnecessarily hostile, personal, and/or non-productive. The vast majority of accusations of fascism that I have seen here are unwarranted and needlessly inflammatory.
I don’t like the hexbear community at all, but jumping straight to accusations of fascism is counterproductive in the extreme. Hexbear users are guilty of brigading, arguing in bad faith, trolling, racism, advocating for violence, and supporting authoritarian regimes, but its quite simply incorrect to describe them as a far right ultranationalist group.
I removed many comments throughout that fiasco, and the vast majority were from hexbears.
awwwyissss@lemm.ee 1 year ago
When I joined Lemmy, I was afraid the politics of the creators would be an issue. It turns out, they are amazing at separating that and their development and stewards of Lemmy.
I’ve found exactly the opposite. I essentially dismissed concerns about Lemmygrad and political extremism, now I’ve come to see it as the biggest threat to the fediverse.
I use it less and would be embarrassed for others to find out I use it in case they saw Lemmygrad/Hexbear content.
Spzi@lemm.ee 1 year ago
There should be plenty of instances to choose from which are defederated from both. Would that be a solution for you or others?
swab148@startrek.website 1 year ago
Plus instance blocking is coming soon, and some apps already have their own implementation of said feature.
awwwyissss@lemm.ee 1 year ago
I’m hoping that instance defederation and blocking gets to that point, but as it is it doesn’t really work. I have Lemmygrad and Hexbear blocked and I still see them regularly.
There’s also a lot of softer propaganda from lemmy.ml, although it doesn’t bother me much since I lean “left” anyway.
cwagner@lemmy.cwagner.me 1 year ago
[deleted]awwwyissss@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Propaganda isn’t obvious or or wouldn’t work. It’s also generally based on the truth.
emeralddawn45@discuss.tchncs.de 1 year ago
That’s okay, I’m sure the lemmygrad and hexbear users are embarrassed to find out you use it too.
PaperTowel@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I totally agree, I’ve found Lemmy to also be quite boring, my feed consistents of 90% memes and politics. With nearly nothing about my more niche hobbies.
ryathal@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
A big part of having more substantial discussions is just having more people. 40k is a good number for active shit posting and stupid jokes, it’s way to small to have a community about hobbies or even most major metro areas. You need at least 2-3x more people active to at least start to get moderately specialized communities like pro sports. For something really niche, you probably need at least a million MaU.
cosmic_slate@dmv.social 1 year ago
Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
I think it’s part of the game and growing pains. You want high quality comments? Well you need more users, 75% of which will rarely post anything, 15% will spam low quality comments, and 10% might submit good posts and we’ll thought out comments. Those numbers are probably a little inflated, but you just need to frow the base and what we are looking for will eventually be there. There will just be a ton of other nonsense, but that’s the good part about upvote/downvotes and different ranking sorting systems.
It will take time, and a lot of people, for a long time will complain that Lemmy is becoming worse, while it slowly gets better.