Marketing this as “text-to-speech” is oversimplyfying at best, dishonest at worst imho. People need to work, we can’t blame the voice actors. But in the end they still are working against themselves/their peers.
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_cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 1 day agothe voice actors were paid to create the text-to-speech system, yes. that was why they were hired in the first place.
Chef6652@lemmy.world 1 day ago
_cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 1 day ago
Marketing this as “text-to-speech” is oversimplyfying at best, dishonest at worst imho.
it is literally a text-to-speech system. saying otherwise is just ignorant.
Chef6652@lemmy.world 1 day ago
TTS has existed for decades, machine learning for less than 20 years, genAI as we know it for less than 5.
Those 3 things are not the same thing. Yes the genAI they used can be included as a TTS because it is one. But only in function.
You are playing on words here. Most people know TTS as a crappy old thing, here this is something way more advanced.
Even if it was the same thing to begin with. I wouldn’t be like a company using a simple TTS capable of recreating the voice of a voice actor I like without paying them the same as if the company hired them.
_cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 1 day ago
you don’t have to like it. just don’t misrepresent what’s going on because you don’t have a good argument against it. it’s not your opinion that’s getting all your comments downvoted, it’s the lying and moralizing.
Goodeye8@piefed.social 1 day ago
But are they also getting paid after the fact? Let’s say $50 any time a new voiceline is added to the game using their voice. Because Embark is using a tool to do the work someone would’ve done manually, they would’ve had to pay the person otherwise so I think a royalty-like payment any time the VA voice is used is completely fair. Otherwise it becomes what people are complaining about, that they’re effectively paying a one time fee for the VA voice and then use it for free for forever.
_cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 1 day ago
yes, that’s what they agreed to and were paid for. and that’s perfectly fine, they weren’t duped and had no issues with it, so even the flimsy moral outrage people come up with over supposed rights to things they create doesn’t apply.
Goodeye8@piefed.social 1 day ago
Call me crazy but I think people getting cheated out of the fruits of their labor, even if they themselves might’ve signed their it away, should be criticized.
_cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 1 day ago
they aren’t being cheated. the labor they signed up and were paid for was recording the voices for the TTS system. you might not like the fact they did that, but that doesn’t change facts. attempting to lie about it just shows your level of intellectual bankruptcy.