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MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
It’s amusing how much blowback you’re getting without even having stated a preference. Are people assuming the mods here or useless or just haven’t seen this or what?
People here are way too worked up about motivations they’ve assumed and won’t bother with seeing proved or disproven.
Meannwhile, if I see a post I think doesn’t fit, I figure the mods should be approving posts rather than play whack-a-mole, realize its not my problem, and move-on. As an American, I’ll go on record; The “American” outlook on the “marketplace of ideas” is stupid, precisely because the substantiation part of the sale is essentially optional to most - you can get by on pandering to niche biases as the need arises.
gbzm@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
It looks more like the blowback is less about one side being better or worse than the other, and more about this whole thesis sounding like the most obnoxious fourteen year old you’ve ever met larping as a sociologist with zero substantiation to their sweeping statements
danciestlobster@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
That and sweeping generalization with a baked in assumption that education is similar/comparable in all European countries
MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
You could say the same about US states, and you’re the first person to bring up any real flaw in OP’s post, beyond “stop stirring shit” and “learn how to right”. “low-effort shitpost” would at least be ironic.
nocteb@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect
MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
I mean, in assigning the different outlooks to specifically Europe/America, sure, but they are far from entirely wrong, even there.
It’s more like America and its banana-republic/media-obsessed/victimized/allied/vassal lackeys versus saner parts of the world, or Rich vs Poor(which outlooks would be flipped in different areas), but beyond that and placing their post in YSK instead of somewhere more centered on conversation or argument, I still saw far more “defensive” comments than OP could bear any real blame for.
gbzm@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
They’re not entirely wrong, of course, but they’re really stretching this simple stereotype into some deep difference in psychologies and assigning it to this “concept of a marketplace of idea vs. rationality and enlightenment” oversimplification. Honestly to a European person who’s lived in America, they mainly sound like an American who’s angry with the state of the US and who’ve completely idealized Europe as a result. Which would be fine if they hadn’t worded what amounts to an overindulged shower thought in such a peremptory fashion.