Comment on Windows 11's adoption is much slower compared to Windows 10, claims Dell

• sonofearth@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Wait… Either I have bad grammar or you misinterpreted lol. I meant “Linux has more to offer than Windows”

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  • Alaknar@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    No, I said exactly what I said - there’s a bunch of things (e.g. stability, updates management, features (like window tiling), etc.) that Windows has and Linux does not.

    There’s A LOT Linux does great. There’s also a lot Windows does great that Linux massively fails at.

    Even some silly things like multi-screen support or saving windows positions between reboots… Lots of small things.

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    • sonofearth@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Linux has all of this out of the box (don’t know about windows positions after reboot, I have never tried that even on Windows). What distro and DE are you using? I am using Arch with KDE Plasma and it has been pretty much flawless and stable for me.

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      • FarrellPerks@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Using Bazzite with KDE Desktop and can confirm that is keeps multi-windoe positions after reboot.

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      • Alaknar@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Especially when you’re on Arch with KDE, you don’t have:

        1. good update management
        2. window tiling
        3. saving window positions

        I know because I’m on Arch with KDE.

        By “good update management” I mean what MS does - all updates are pushed once a month, on Patch Tuesday (second Tuesday of the month). You can put it in your calendar and plan for a necessary reboot.

        I know Arch is a rolling release so it doesn’t have that on purpose, but it’s not much better with Ubuntu - I was getting updates every couple of days, once a week at best.

        Window tiling doesn’t exist “out of the box”, you need third party software (which, apparently still doesn’t give you what Windows has out of the box) or a switch from KDE to COSMIC, which still doesn’t give you the freedom of choice that Windows has (it’s either “everything is tiled” or “nothing is tiled”).

        Saving window positions (on Wayland) is the most confusing one, because it seems like the one that’d be the easiest to implement, but KDE devs just flat out refuse to do it. I hear that it works on X11.

        Multi-monitor support is piss poor. If I spread my windows across multiple monitors and then turn one monitor off, those windows are no longer accessible. SDDM displays the same interface on each monitor, and each is a separate instance of SDDM - meaning, you can type in your password on monitor 2, and if you press “OK” on monitor 1, it will fail, because the password field is empty. It’s just silly design. On Windows, if you disconnect an extra screen, all the content gets dropped on the main screen. Since Windows 11, if you then re-connect the screen, all windows will pop back into their places before the disconnect happened.

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• killabeezio@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Stability? Update management? Window tiling? What? Linux does have all of these things. In fact Linux is way more stable than Windows, has better update management. Mind you, it does depend on the distro and the amount of stability you want, but I have been running Debian servers for years and I hardly run into problems.

  The only thing windows offers over Linux is gaming and a better UI. Even both of those are dwindling away. I hate the new windows 11 UI and most games work on Linux unless you require a rootkit for some anti cheat software.

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  • Alaknar@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Stability? Update management? Window tiling? What? Linux does have all of these things.

    No.

    In fact Linux is way more stable than Windows

    I install Windows and forget about it. I install Linux and have to do all this, and then it still might do this or this.

    Mind you, it does depend on the distro

    Agreed.

    and the amount of stability you want

    I want all the stability.

    but I have been running Debian servers for years and I hardly run into problems.

    Not talking about servers.

    But even then - at my last job we finally killed off a Windows Server that had an uptime of over 1000 days, just chugging along like a little trooper. At my previous-previous job I was responsible for the WinServer updates, every single one of them was getting monthly updates and reboots, didn’t have a single issue in 7 years. It was just shy of 100 servers.

    The only thing windows offers over Linux is gaming and a better UI. Even both of those are dwindling away. I hate the new windows 11 UI and most games work on Linux unless you require a rootkit for some anti cheat software.

    Agreed. I have Garuda Linux installed on my gaming PC and only had minor issues with three titles. It’s surprisingly frictionless.

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    • MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The most frustrating part of running Linux for me is the experience can vary so much for each person, slight hardware differences can cause odd bugs that other people don’t have, and solving them can be really time consuming because a fix that works for one distro or DE may not work on another.

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