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theskyisfalling@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

Typical condescending reply that I expect, yes it is a “skill issue” and I don’t really give a fuck. We don’t all have the same skills or the same levels of interest in acquiring those skills, some of us just want a solution that works easily for their skill level.

It is your kind of attitude as well that puts more people off learning these things because without a real interest in learning these things those kinds of hostilities just put people off of wanting to participate in those circles.

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chonkyninja@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Quick question, do you know how to wipe your own ass?

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- Cocodapuf@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Do you know how to rebuild your car’s engine?
  
  Do you know how to remediate black mold spreading on the walls of a houseboat?
  
  Do you know how to compile Linux to run on some custom arm hardware?
  
  Do you know how to repair or rebuild a crumbling stone retaining wall?
  
  There’s a good chance you may not know how to accomplish all of those tasks. There’s also a very good chance you may not care about knowing how to accomplish all of those tasks, as some of them may not be relevant to you. This is ok.
  
  Finally, I know you’re posting on the Internet, but you don’t have to be an asshole, that’s a choice.
  
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- theskyisfalling@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  No, I am intending to take that course next year, any tips?
  
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hperrin@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
You could learn everything you need to know by watching a 20 minute YouTube video, but you’d rather use a paid product instead. That’s, like, the definition of a skill issue. The issue isn’t that the software is hard to use, it’s that you refuse to learn how to use it.

And that’s not the fault of Jellyfin, because the “ease of use” of Plex is because it’s a paid product. They can afford to run servers to make everything work for you without having to put in any effort to learn. You’re using their servers to make it easy for you, and you’re paying to do it.

It’s fine if you don’t want to learn to set up a service, but it does make me wonder why you’re commenting on a self hosting community.

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- theskyisfalling@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Except that just isn’t true unless you have prior knowledge of lots of other things. As with a lot of documentation within this space it all presumes prior knowledge of different things.
  
  Most things you read or watch will start with just do x but if you don’t already even know how to do x then you have to go down a further rabbit hole to find out how to do that. Everything you try and do is a series of these things so your 20 minute YouTube video turns into hours of trying to learn other things to tie in with it.
  
  On top of that I dont understand the underlying security implications behind opening my network up to the outside world, it is all well and good following some 20 minute video but without understanding the underlying implications of what you are doing how can you really fully trust that information because I dont understand everything behind it?
  
  Again, I never said it wasnt a skill issue, I literally agreed with you that it was…
  
  Also why can I not comment and participate in a self hosting community just because I dont do things exactly the way YOU want me to does that mean I automatically can’t participate?
  
  It is your kind of hostile and condescending attitude along with documentation that assumes too much prior knowledge that makes both the self hosting and Linux communities really unwelcoming to people that are looking to even dip a toe into them. This all or nothing attitude where only your method of doing things is acceptable and anything else is seen as fair game for mockery and condescension.
  
  I’m new to the space and maybe in the future as I learn more about it I can move on to other things as I gain the knowledge I need but people like you, whose attitude is just fucking shitty are really off putting in these spaces. Everyone needs to learn and the culture of condescension and mockery towards new users by a large majority of the existing user base doesn’t make more people want to join in and learn.
  
  Cheers for adding absolutely nothing to the conversation though and further putting me off wanting to learn any more or continue to interact with the communities though. You’re really helping push adoption of things like this.
  
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  - hperrin@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Again, you just sound like you’re not interested in self hosting. I wasn’t even that condescending to you, but you took it that way. You said you don’t want to learn how to self host in a community about self hosting. Like, imagine if someone went into a community about bicycling and was like, “Well, I don’t want to ride bikes, but I like motorcycles because I don’t have to pedal.” You should expect a certain level of disregard in a community if you’re going into that community saying you’re unwilling to learn the basics of what that community is about.
    
    If you’re not interested in self hosting, I’m not saying you’re not welcome here, because a. you are and b. I don’t moderate this community anyway, but I genuinely wonder why you’re here. You did say you might be interested in the future, so…
    
    This is a genuine offer: if you want to learn how to self host, I will get on a video call with you and teach you how to set up some services on your home network and open them up in a secure way. I write and run my own servers, and have for well over a decade, so I am qualified to teach you what you need to know, if you want to learn.
    
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    theskyisfalling@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Yeh that is fair enough, maybe I worded it wrong in the first place as it is more that right now I dont have the time or motivation to do the learning due to everything else going on in life and I do conceded that I did jump first to condescension but that was based more on a lot of previous interactions I have had within the broader Linux community so I apologise if that was not your intention but “sounds like a skill issue” is a usual dismissive response that is often meant to be condescending.
    
    I have put a lot of time in the last year into learning Linux to get to a place where I have proxmox running as well as a NAS and that was all from a place of zero prior knowledge and that was a steep learning curve and I think I am some what jaded from that experience going forward too due to some interactions and how not easy to follow documentation is for someone entirely new to the space.
    
    I do appreciate the offer and maybe in the future I could take you up on the offer when I have more time and mental capacity to put back into furthering my learning within this space. Apologies for jumping straight to an assumption of your position based on previous interactions if that wasnt your intention, it just came across as such.
    
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