Practice your religion by yourself and speak and connect to your beliefs on your own. No one needs a public and constant display or acknowledgement of what you believe. And we don’t need to conform the entire world and everyone around to satisfy your beliefs and your religion. And a religion doesn’t need a billion dollar industry and infrastructure in order for it to exist.
If what you believe is moral, respectable, useful and beneficial to society, then there should never be a need to display your religion, your beliefs or to have the need to want to convert others by force or coercion. If what you believe is morally good for everyone, people will gravitate towards your religion … forcing it on others and onto society is a sure sign that what you believe has more to do with wanting control over others rather than in creating a belief system that would benefit people.
Okay, so, if all the quiet religious folk were just more quieter, that would stop the megachurch swindlers? How? Wouldn’t it just give them more leeway as we won’t be “forcing our religion on them”, eg, calling out their heresy?
Also, I believe that anyone outside of my religion goes to hell. So it will be neglectful and not loving to refuse to give someone the reason/cause of my belief, or to warn them of impending disaster.
I consider Jesus of Nazareth’s resurrection from the dead a historical fact. Therefore the logical implications from there are that He is God and what He says must be true. I don’t see why I shouldn’t be able to speak about said fact like anyone can speak about other facts and give them my reasons for believing that.
Lastly, if I weren’t practicing my religion in public, that would involve not forgiving other people. It would involve seeking revenge. It would involve being impatient. Things I might do if I weren’t a Christian.
If people were doing this, how would you know? And if other people aren’t, what do you expect the people who are to do about it? Are you hoping for a Streets of New York scene where the non-intrusive Christians duke it out with the loudmouthed Christians until only one group is left?
I’m not saying what you’re saying is wrong, it just doesnt address the question of the guy who responded to you.
ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 20 hours ago
We only hear the loud lunatics because the quiet followers never say or do anything about them.
Flax_vert@feddit.uk 19 hours ago
genuinely want to know your thoughts: what do you think we can do?
ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 15 hours ago
Practice your religion by yourself and speak and connect to your beliefs on your own. No one needs a public and constant display or acknowledgement of what you believe. And we don’t need to conform the entire world and everyone around to satisfy your beliefs and your religion. And a religion doesn’t need a billion dollar industry and infrastructure in order for it to exist.
If what you believe is moral, respectable, useful and beneficial to society, then there should never be a need to display your religion, your beliefs or to have the need to want to convert others by force or coercion. If what you believe is morally good for everyone, people will gravitate towards your religion … forcing it on others and onto society is a sure sign that what you believe has more to do with wanting control over others rather than in creating a belief system that would benefit people.
Flax_vert@feddit.uk 3 hours ago
Okay, so, if all the quiet religious folk were just more quieter, that would stop the megachurch swindlers? How? Wouldn’t it just give them more leeway as we won’t be “forcing our religion on them”, eg, calling out their heresy?
Also, I believe that anyone outside of my religion goes to hell. So it will be neglectful and not loving to refuse to give someone the reason/cause of my belief, or to warn them of impending disaster.
I consider Jesus of Nazareth’s resurrection from the dead a historical fact. Therefore the logical implications from there are that He is God and what He says must be true. I don’t see why I shouldn’t be able to speak about said fact like anyone can speak about other facts and give them my reasons for believing that.
Lastly, if I weren’t practicing my religion in public, that would involve not forgiving other people. It would involve seeking revenge. It would involve being impatient. Things I might do if I weren’t a Christian.
GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 10 hours ago
If people were doing this, how would you know? And if other people aren’t, what do you expect the people who are to do about it? Are you hoping for a Streets of New York scene where the non-intrusive Christians duke it out with the loudmouthed Christians until only one group is left?
I’m not saying what you’re saying is wrong, it just doesnt address the question of the guy who responded to you.