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HubertManne@piefed.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

I mean the lawsuit thing is laughable and 100% not possible. I seriously think it weakens your statements. Especially given they are so long to begin with. Best to be as concise as possible (and yeas, I know, as does anyone who knows me in this media, im being a huge hypocrite with that statement).

As far as defederation I personally am not big on it but I get why it exists and its going to be a conversation. Personally I would rather not have it at the instance level and want the software to allow individuals to be able to block at every level. I don’t like lemmy.ml or lemmy.world and I would like to be able to block everything that comes from it. I don’t like a community and I can block that. Individual same. I personally would like blocking to be two way. If I am not having anything to do with something I would prefer it to not get my content as well as not seeing theirs. I additionally like other things like blocking web urls for posts that are links so I don’t have to see things from faux news or news nation or such. That being said (im into that phrase today I guess) it a fantasy ideal of mine and currently things don’t work that way and there are bigger world things that might not make that possible. One, ironically given my first paragraph, is law. I completely understand an instance defederating because another instance might have posts that could get them into legal trouble. Something like child porn. Further I can understand instances that are so diametrically opposed to defederate from each other. An instance thats put up for gay folks may not want to federate with one that is about how great nazism is. Again I really wish users could be the control point and the bidirectional is key so that people can realize just how unpolular their thing is when not only is no one seeing their content but they are also not getting content. But yeah defederating can be a slipperly slope and should not be done casually. I have found most people are not super gung ho to do those in general although in specific instances you can get cheerleaders for a specific one.

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Cricket@lemmy.zip ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

I mean the lawsuit thing is laughable and 100% not possible. I seriously think it weakens your statements. Why? Genuine question. I’m not a lawyer or have any legal training, but what would stop the Lemmy devs sue someone for distorting their statements with the purpose of damaging their reputation and making them lose income, if they wanted to? I don’t believe they’re the type that would do that, but I’m not aware of anything that would stop it. I’m not saying something that would stop them from doing that doesn’t exist, just that I’m not aware of it.

Especially given they are so long to begin with. Best to be as concise as possible (and yeas, I know, as does anyone who knows me in this media, im being a huge hypocrite with that statement). Hey, I agree with that. I tend to be pretty wordy in everything. I wish I was more concise too.

Regarding your paragraph on defederation, I’m glad that we agree on another thing. I don’t know if you know, but Lemmy allows a user to block at pretty much every level (user, community, or entire instances). I understand that the blocking is not 100% perfect, but I don’t know the details. I can see that bidirectional blocks would help. I would expect that the blocks as they are go a long way in improving user experience here though. My community and instance blocks definitely improve mine because it helps me not see stuff I don’t want to see. I can also understand that keyword filters and URL filters would also improve the experience, so I hope that they add both eventually. I’ve heard that Piefed may have more features in that regard.

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- Skavau@piefed.social ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  
  Why? Genuine question. I’m not a lawyer or have any legal training, but what would stop the Lemmy devs sue someone for distorting their statements with the purpose of damaging their reputation and making them lose income, if they wanted to? I don’t believe they’re the type that would do that, but I’m not aware of anything that would stop it. I’m not saying something that would stop them from doing that doesn’t exist, just that I’m not aware of it.
  
  Because the entire fediverse has a net active user pool of 40k users. Moreover, the lemmy devs have no idea who anyone who might be diaparaging their instance is. They could literally be anywhere in the world. Do you genuinely think its worth their time at all?
  
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  - Cricket@lemmy.zip ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    No, I don’t think it would be worth their time and I also don’t think that they’re the types who would be inclined to resort to that in the first place. My point is that those posts expose the poster and the instance admins to action, if someone were litigious and lived in a litigious society that facilitated this.
    
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    Skavau@piefed.social ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    It would also help if they actually had a name even if they were rather than just some user account from who-knows-where.
    
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- HubertManne@piefed.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  yeah im on piefed now mostly due to features like that. pretty much everything is there except the bidirectional and the devs are pretty active and seem to talk regularly about improvements so things have come to it that did not occur to me but im estatic about. just recently it was a setting to not have things in your feed that you already read which I am just loving. I pretty much don’t have to read looking at new now because everythig I read goes away and if there is no new stuff then old stuff will show. which I really like.
  
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  - Cricket@lemmy.zip ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    That’s good to know. I haven’t tried piefed yet. I hesitate for a couple of reasons (technical and political, although neither is a super-strong reason). I’m pretty sure that the feature to hide posts you’ve read has been on Lemmy for a long time too, although I haven’t used it myself. I torture myself by seeing the same posts over and over and over again. I should really try that feature. :)
    
    By the way, I just now noticed that my last reply to you had messed up formatting that was merging my responses with your quotes, so I’ve edited it to fix it.
    
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    HubertManne@piefed.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    no worries. I have had auto formatting messing up my things and I was not even gracious enough to fix it for the people.
    
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