Comment on Meta’s star AI scientist Yann LeCun plans to leave for own startup

• communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  He knows the basics, it’s just that they don’t lead to any of the conclusions he’s claiming they do. He also boldly assumes that everyone who disagrees with him doesn’t know anything. He’s a beast of confirmation bias.

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  • just_another_person@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Nah, I’m just not going to write a novel on Lemmy, ma dude.

    I’m not even spouting anything that’s not readily available information anyway. This is all well known, hence everybody calling out the bubble.

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    • communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      You have not said one thing i did not already know, none of it has to do with anything

      an ai did something novel, this is an easily verified fact.

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      • just_another_person@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        It most certainly did not…because it can’t.

        You find me a model that can take multiple disparate pieces of information and combine them into a new idea not fed with a pre-selected pattern, and I’ll eat my hat. The very basis of how these models operates is in complete opposition of you thinking it can spontaneously have a new and novel idea. New…that’s what novel means.

        I can pointlessly link you to papers, blogs from researchers explaining, or just asking one of these things for yourself, but you’re not going to listen, which is on you for intentionally deciding to remain ignorant to how they function.

        Here’s Terrence Kim describing how they set it up using GRPO: terrencekim.net/…/scaling-llms-for-next-generatio…

        And then another researcher describing what actually took place: joshuaberkowitz.us/…/googles-cell2sentence-c2s-sc…

        So you can obviously see…not novel ideation. They fed it a bunch of trained data, and it correctly used the different pattern alignment to say “If it works this way otherwise, it should work this way with this example.”

        Sure, it’s not something humans had gotten to get, but that’s the entire point of the tool. Good for the progress, certainly, but that’s it’s job. It didn’t come up with some new idea about anything because it works from the data it’s given, and the logic boundaries of the tasks it’s set to run. It’s not doing anything super special here, just very efficiently.

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