Comment on Meta’s star AI scientist Yann LeCun plans to leave for own startup

avidamoeba@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

• UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Well, he’s got a bowtie and Zuck wears an oversized t-shirt with Bugs Bunny dressed as a 90s rapper.

  They certainly can’t both be wrong, can they?

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  • XLE@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    They could both be right… From a certain point of view.

    Within FAIR, LeCun has instead focused on developing world models that can truly plan and reason. Over the past year, though, Meta’s AI research groups have seen growing tension and mass layoffs as Zuckerberg has shifted the company’s AI strategy away from long-term research and toward the rapid deployment of commercial products.

    LeCun says current AI models are a dead end for progress. I think he’s correct.

    Zuckerberg appears to believe long term development of alternative models will be a bigger money drain than pushing current ones. I think he’s correct too.

    It looks like two guys arguing about which dead end to pursue.

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    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      LeCun says current AI models are a dead end for progress.

      Sure. That’s easily proven, as the Pacific Rim tech companies are all running laps around the American models in terms of efficiency and output.

      It looks like two guys arguing about which dead end to pursue

      They’re both Snipe Hunting for the mythological AGI, because they’re each invested in the idea of a Singularity solving all their problems.

      LLMs have a set of niche useful applications, but these dudes are born chucking that advancement aside in pursuit of Digital God.

      With Roko’s Basilisk bumping around in their heads, I can’t help but detect a certain religious fervor, either. We really might have folks who believe they’ll be tortured for eternity if they don’t build AI Hellraiser first.

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• tomiant@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Getting Smarter AI < Making More Money

  Is there more money in smarter AI or in manipulating people’s voting patterns with the tools you’ve got?

  I saw Suck at Trump’s inauguration, I didn’t see this Chinese feller there.

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  • nymnympseudonym@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    this Chinese feller

    He’s French, actually.

    This is one of the three people that basically invented Deep Learning . One of the others is Geoffrey Hinton, who got the Nobel Prize in 2024

    No matter what you think of LeCun or his opinions… he’s damn well worth listening to with attention and respect.

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    • tomiant@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Well I’ve been a damn drunk fool, then, sir.

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      • krooklochurm@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Good for you for owning up to it like a grown up. Might I suggest rewarding yourself by shumming?

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    • technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Nah. Nobody “invented” “deep learning”. The progress of science is independent of any particular mediocre person. This kind of “hero” worship is extremely anti-science. Nowadays this guy is just another mediocre grifter rich bro (regardless of past research that anybody could have done).

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• kromem@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  He’s been wrong about it so far and really derailed Meta’s efforts.

  This is almost certainly a “you can resign or we are going to fire you” kind of situation. There’s no way with the setbacks and how badly he’s been wrong on transformers over the past 2 years that he is not finally being pushed out.

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