Do I need to explain to you what that means, or do you have a clue about South Korean history and US foreign policy?
I appreciate you showing me how not to make a point in “a pointlessly hostile and asshole way”!
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zqps@sh.itjust.works 2 days agoI said literally: it means absolutely nothing historically or ethically, or worse it typically means “aligned with imperialist hegemons”.
Do I need to explain to you what this means, or do you have a clue about South Korean history and US foreign policy?
bitcrafter@programming.dev 2 days ago
zqps@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
Yeah I guess you got me down to your level.
So now only the difference remains that I didn’t misconstrue your point on purpose to score a cheap dunk.
ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 2 days ago
But what then does it mean, or rather should it mean according to you? So far you’ve only cast confusion on what the question means, but you haven’t provided your view on what it should mean then.
zqps@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
There’s two issues. The one is that prosperity is already very ambiguous, and in the context of nations we usually default to easily measurable things like GDP but that doesn’t define human well-being. Look at the US for a stark example. And the person who asked the question didn’t clarify for a reason.
But the bigger issue is that it’s just the wrong question. Any definition of prosperity for one people can be built upon the subjugation and exploitation of others. And that’s exactly what happened and continues to happen for “former” colonial powers, as well as aligned governments (which includes a lot of puppets). Hence US foreign policy.
ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 2 days ago
I think that’s a fairly cynical take of the question that was asked. I’m not sure which peoples are being subjugated and exploited in South Korea. And in the context of North Korea, I’m not sure what your exact point is with regards to oppression, as it seems that issue is much more severe there.
The question remains: what should the question have been then? Population happiness then? Life expectancy? How would you measure which country is doing better, and in which comparison does NK come out on top over SK?
zqps@sh.itjust.works 21 hours ago
I didn’t say the people of South Korea are being subjugated. Not sure how I could have made clearer that these are two separate issues…
You also won’t find me defending NK. Not everything should devolve into tribalism and dunking on whatever we perceive as the other team. Which is exactly what I’m criticizing about this question and the way it was asked.
bitcrafter@programming.dev 2 days ago
If you don’t feel like stating your opinion on which country is better off and why, then you could just say that outright or say nothing. You really don’t have to go to all of this trouble to pontificate about how it is unreasonable to even consider the matter. 😜
zqps@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
So prosperity for one people is worth any price to you?