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• bitcrafter@programming.dev ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I didn’t say the people of South Korea are being subjugated.

  Quote the comment that started all of this:

  Is anyone really surprised one of the biggest companies in occupied korea would do this??

  I acknowledge that this is not your comment, but you stepped in and answered a question directed at this person, so you should not act so surprised that you have become associated with their position, especially since you continue to work really hard to do everything except actually state your own opinion, except insofar that “everything is too complicated for anyone to have an opinion” counts as an opinion.

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  • zqps@sh.itjust.works ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Yeah it was asked in bad faith and framed in a manupulative way.

    That’s not a good thing, no matter if you disagree with the person it was directed at.

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    • bitcrafter@programming.dev ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Generally when one refers to a country as being “occupied”, the implication is that the people there are poor off as a result, especially relative to a neighboring country whose land is presumably being considered occupied, which in this case is implicitly North Korea due to the history of how the two countries split. It is therefore not in bad father to directly ask whether the people there are better or worse off as a result.

      You also seem to be hyper-fixated on one possible meaning of prosperous, which is “wealth and GDP”, when there are lots of other means related to flourishing in general. The original commenter was perfectly free to provide an answer along the lines of, “North Korea is the more prosperous country because X.” where X is a list of ways in which the people there are flourishing, and this would have been a valid answer (if not necessarily a correct one).

      Alternatively, if they think that South Korea is better off but this does not matter because it is still less ethical than North Korea, then they could have taken the opportunity to be up front about that.

      So in short, this question could have been used in all sorts of ways to provide an answer that clarified the commenter’s position. It is a shame that we never heard from them exactly what their thoughts were.

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      • zqps@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        So in short, this question could have been used in all sorts of ways to provide an answer that clarified the commenter’s position.

        I mean, in the way it was asked not really. It was explicitly asked, or rather condescendingly demanded, as a simple binary choice stripped of all context.

        That’s not how you engage with someone when you actually want to get their take on a complex issue. That’s how you engage if you want to score an easy win for upvotes. And I for one am done with that kinda hostile “debate bro” culture / popularity contest that’s defined many subreddits over the years. It shuts down any chance for an actual exchange. So let’s not act surprised at the result.

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