Not really. TSMC has a near monopoly on the advanced fabrication, and ASML has a near monopoly on the lithographic machines TSMC uses. Nvidia is a fab-less designer. Google has its TPUs, and Amazon has some kind of custom chip too.
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TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
Nvidia had near monopoly on semiconductors. Even if Nvidia crash, they will recover. I just trimmed my own shares on Nvidia to cushion the blow.
sobchak@programming.dev 13 hours ago
TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
I also invested in TSMC.
ASML is way too expensive for my taste. I’ve been hoping they will do split stock so I could get in.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
Even if Nvidia stocks crash, they will recover.
NVIDIA is up 1500% in two years, with a p/e ratio of 56 in a market that’s absolutely ravenous for semiconductors. The idea that the demand for semiconductors can flatline as data center production stales and NVIDIA’s valuation will just rebound to its current high is… well, it’s highly speculative what NVIDIA is going to do, but I wouldn’t bank on the current status quo.
If nothing else, it’s a stock that can safely be described as “overvalued”. Selling now isn’t a bad idea.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 7 hours ago
Yeah, a “safe” PE ratio is around 20. The PE of the entire market is about 28, so investors are basically saying Nvidia is going to grow at double the rate vs the rest of the economy.
I think that’s bonkers, but what’s even more bonkers is Palantir with a ~1700 PE ratio. That’s ludicrous.
megopie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 hours ago
They have a near monopoly on cloud service genAI data center GPUs. They don’t make the semiconductors. They just hand the design for those chip to TSMC and then sell what TSMC makes for them. The vast majority of their revenue right now is coming from selling stuff to new genAI data centers, if those stop getting built, they loose 80% of their revenue. And their current valuation is based on an assumption of an order of magnitude of new such data centers being built year on year.
I think, that it’s very likely that demand for new such chips is liable to drop to 0 because the capacity of currently extant data center using their chips is already overbuilt for realistic demand. No one other than Nvidia is making money on these data centers, and there is no path to profitability.
TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
Thanks for the info. Silly me didn’t realise Nvidia doesn’t manufacture semiconductors. I thought Nvidia also does because they are one of the leaders in GPU. Speaking of GPUs, at the very least they command the GPU market.
megopie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 hours ago
They’re about a 2/3rds majority in the consumer and workstation market, and that’s not insignificant, but that’s also not a significant part of their revenue by this point, nor is it why their stock makes up a terrifying percentage of the S&P 500.
If their revenue returned to just being that, they’d basically cease to be a relevant company and their stock price would carter.