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• Damage@feddit.it ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Idk, the dev seems… hostile. And prevents the project from becoming a community effort. Also:

  Feature-parity is a non-goal for Valetudo, and if you’re wondering which features “you might lose”, Valetudo is not for you.

  I mean, I do wonder if I will lose features, therefore I guess I should look elsewhere.

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  • Hypfer@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    And prevents the project from becoming a community effort.

    No, I am not doing that, because I cannot do that. That is the whole thing with FOSS code.

    If there was a community of builders picking it up and doing something community-driven, I could not do anything about it, nor would I want to.

    They would be required to not call it Valetudo + not use the logo, so that they cannot coast off the brand and reputation of course - and that I would absolutely expect from anyone -, but other than that anyone can do whatever.

    Why this hasn’t happened yet, I cannot say for certain, but my hypothesis is that no one actually wants to put in the work. Likely both because work is work and work is annoying, but also because what exists now just works so what would you even do other than slap another name on it and feel good about yourself.

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    But putting that aside, I’d like to ask a different question: Why wouldn’t I want that?

    If community is nice, friendly, warm and full of heart, why would I oppose that? I am, after all, just like you. A human that would like to have fun, pleasant and nice interactions with other like-minded humans. I, like everyone else, am a social creature that enjoys being seen as a fellow human and member of a group.

    So why would I oppose that?

    The answer to that might be, that the mental model of “community project” does not actually in reality and execution fit any of what I described right now.

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    Of course, I cannot and will not rule out that it is just me and that I am the problem, but even if that is the case, then I still need to exist and need space to exist. “Just be normal” just means “stop being you”

    It would be quite weird to not allow me to exist within the space I created from nothing from the ground up, wouldn’t it? If even that isn’t a place I would be allowed to be in, then where is?

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    • Damage@feddit.it ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      [valetudo.cloud/pages/…/why-not-valetudo.html#not_…](Valetudo is not a community) is on the website.

      If your answer to my comment is: “well, you can create your own community, with blackjack and hookers!”, well… There’d be so much to discuss that I don’t think it’s worth it.

      And as for the second paragraph, ommunities aren’t “nice”. They’re communities, made of people, who are all flawed, just like everyone is, in different ways, but manage to make the puzzle of human interaction fit. If all you want is people communicating and behaving in a specific way that you approve of, that’s not a community.

      Nobody’s forcing you out of your space and I’ve never proposed it, I just said that I won’t be using your software, we’re both making our choices, hopefully in respect of each other.

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    • asbestos@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Holy crap, didn’t expect the creator of Valetudo to be here. Love your style, keep it up

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      • Hypfer@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        🫡

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    • rumba@lemmy.zip ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      First off, thank you for all your work.

      Why this hasn’t happened yet

      You set the bar pretty high for improvement.

      The vacuums are expensive. The work requires multiple top-tier skill sets, and the people with those skill sets don’t generally have enough time to contribute to something this heavy

      Somebody could just fork you and clone everything you’re doing, but it’s not like any users would chase someone else versus you when you’re the only one getting actual work done.

      It’s also kind of poking the bear for these vacuum companies skirting along by selling user data.

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    • JohnAnthony@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Thank you very much for your hard work. I would never have gotten a robot vacuum if Valetudo did not exist.

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  • lepinkainen@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It’s all explained here: valetudo.cloud/pages/…/why-not-valetudo.html

    The dev has a specific vision and that’s it. If you don’t like it you can use something else.

    Just like the dev of Calibre/Kitty. He does things a certain way because that’s the way he likes it. It’s a stupid and shit way, but Calibre has no real competition so I use it 🙂

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    • Damage@feddit.it ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      The dev has a specific vision and that’s it. If you don’t like it you can use something else.

      Yes, that’s what I wrote as well.

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  • lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Idk, the dev seems… hostile.

    I’ve only ever seen a dev become “hostile” when people simply don’t read the documentation and ask the same questions over and over and over again.

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• BartyDeCanter@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Unfortunately, it doesn’t appear to support anything from iRobot. I’m hoping that there will be a jailbreak made available before they go bankrupt, but I doubt it.

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  • zalgotext@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Not supporting iRobot vacuums isn’t necessarily a bad thing, considering that at the price iRobot is asking for their vacuums, a lot of the other companies in the space offer much nicer models with more features.

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• nfreak@lemmy.ml ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I’ve been eyeballing this, doesn’t seem too difficult for most compatible models either. Might be a little after Christmas project

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• besmtt@lemmy.world ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Absolutely love Valetudo!

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