Comment on Introducing SlopStop: Community-driven AI slop detection in Kagi Search

raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

• Ludicrous0251@piefed.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Then I have great news for you! Kagi accept bitcoin, does not validate email addresses (so you can register as fhhdsbgwg@hrjesbgwgw.com if that appeals to you), and they implemented privacy pass tokens that fully anonymize your searches. They also allows searching through tor!

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  • raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    You still need to log in and link all your searches to each other. Those are trivial to de-anonymize you from.

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    • Ludicrous0251@piefed.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      https://help.kagi.com/kagi/privacy/privacy-pass.html

      When you enable Privacy Pass, instead of logging in with your Kagi account for each search, you use special cryptographic tokens. These tokens prove you have the right to use Kagi’s services without revealing who you are. This means your searches can’t be linked back to your account or to each other, providing an additional layer of privacy.

      Obviously you lose some of the customization, but otherwise still a great service.

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      • raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        These tokens prove you have the right to use Kagi’s services without revealing who you are.

        Ok that sounds like an actual technical solution that - to be honest - I wasn’t expecting here. Sadly, there’s way too many processes involved for me to consider this for myself. Also, I am not transferring a single penny to the divided states of southern northern america until I run out of options - but that’s just me.

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• Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Just use their third party crypto payment service. It doesnt transmit any of this. Perhaps look this kind of thing up prior to insinuating these things are required for Kagi.

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  • raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    You still link all your searches together which deanonymizes you within a couole of days.

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• tal@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  They have a no-log, no-profile policy, which is why I use them.

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  • raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I don’t trust companies to not log my data. Not ever.

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    • tal@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      That’s fair – it necessarily extends trust, and at the least you’d want them to be liable for false advertising.

      I did go digging directly as a result of your comment, and I did find that it looks like Kagi operates at least in part, if not in whole, from Serbia. They have a San Francisco mailing address…but it’s just basically a mailbox.

      For me, at least, that’s a concern; I’ve posted here on the matter to make others aware. I don’t know if it’d be enough to stop me from using them, but it certainly does make me consider how much weight I’d be willing to place on statements the company makes about its privacy policy, and what their practical legal liability is if they’re making inaccurate statements.

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      • raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Good additional information - I don’t necessarily have a problem with a company being based in Europe (better than the divided states) but our governments here are also slowly diving into totalitarianism, and Serbia has never really become a proper democracy since the last Yugoslavian wars. Currently that country is way too cozy with Putin for my taste.

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      • Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        After the killing of all the warrant canaries in the US, Serbian headquarters seems like a pro rather than a con.

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