We regulated the safety of the driver with little regard for pedestrians. The solution is regulating what your car does to others in a crash
Comment on xkcd #3167: Car Size
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 2 weeks agoregulation is why cars in the USA are so large. all the safety requirements pushed them larger and larger and heavier.
carpelbridgesyndrome@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
theolodis@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
I think Europe might prove you wrong
boonhet@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
Will it? Modern small cars are huge compared to old small cars in Europe too. Because of crumple zones and safety equipment. You used to be able to get a VW Golf that was 3.7 meters long and weighed like 800 kilos. Same car now starts at nearly 4.3 meters and over 1.2 tons.
theolodis@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
But still, the biggest SUV in europe is merely average by US standards
boonhet@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
Sure, but my point was that Europe doesn’t prove the “cars got bigger and heavier because of safety regulations” statement wrong. Obviously cars in the US got even more bigger and heavier than needed for safety, but safety regulations in the EU have also made EU cars bigger and heavier.
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
the cars they have in europe/asian are illegal here.
kevinhippert@c.im 2 weeks ago
@TubularTittyFrog @Benchamoneh How do you explain the existence of the Honda Fit and Toyota Corolla on American roads (curb weights: 2,381lbs and 2800lbs)?
We like big cars and we can not lie
You other libertarians can't deny
That when a car pulls up with a itty-bitty MPG
and a 4 ton weight in your face, we get sprung.TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
those cars are large
taco_daemon@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
not USanian but afaik cars got so big over there because trucks (being work vehicles) have less (environmental, safety, …) regulations than cars, that’s why SUVs got so popular, manufacturers pushed them onto public. as long as the base for the vehicle is that of a truck they are legally exempt from many limits.
source: probably “Not Just Bikes” on y*utube idk
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
cars are way bigger than they were 10-20 years ago. My 2017 civic is larger than my 1995 Camry.
argarath@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Smaller modern cars still have the same safety features, marketing has found the best way to make consumers want new and more expensive cars through the idea of big car=safe, which only becomes true if the other car involved in a crash is also big, but just like the comic shows, it becomes an arms race where it only increases the danger, as a bigger car also has bigger inertia, so a crash at the same speed has drastic different energy transference.
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
people like bigger cars for many other reasons.
they are more comfortable. they are safer, they fit more stuff. they have more features than smaller cars.