Comment on xkcd #3167: Car Size

• Ironfacebuster@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  What’s crazy (and sucks) is they DID have an EV S10 from the mid 90’s (hence why it sucks: it’s exactly what you want, but they killed it)

  Of course it doesn’t have the modern safety features, but I bet you could still find one if you’re determined enough! Although it’s possible you already knew this 😉

  en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_S-10_EV

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  • AtariDump@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Interesting to read that and see how far we’ve come with EVs and charging.

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    • Ironfacebuster@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Even crazier to think how far we could’ve been if they didn’t kill all of these projects as soon as they could!

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  • ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I had no idea, I’ll have a to keep an eye out for those 👀

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    • Ironfacebuster@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Glad I could open your eyes! I have no idea how rare they are so it’s possible you’ll never see one (or you’ll have to build one yourself maybe?)

      I only heard about them a day or two before commenting because of the recent EV1 auction! Turns out Jared from The Questionable Garage (formerly Wrench Every Day) got one driving again, which he brought up in his video talking about the EV1 auction

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• Credibly_Human@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  You’re basically asking for what slate promises to be.

  Also, you totally didn’t say it, but I feel like whining about it so: A lot of people think that the infotainment in cars could be stripped out to lower the price, but a big touch screen is actually very cheap and it might even be more expensive to have a bunch of bespoke buttons per model, so really, the idea of a gutted out vehicle wouldn’t save any money. The only actual money savers would be in areas like the suspension, build quality, engine size, that sort of thing.

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  • IzzyJ@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Perhaps, but having tactile options like buttons and dials is considerably safer as the ui can’t change and you can keep your eyes on the road

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    • Credibly_Human@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Perhaps, but having tactile options like buttons and dials is considerably safer as the ui can’t change and you can keep your eyes on the road

      Meh. Debatable.

      I think a few crucial buttons and a screen is most safe. To have all the modern features and settings of a normal car and have buttons alone would leave you with a 747 cockpit you have to look at anyways, and you’d have to cover more area to find things.

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  • spankinspinach@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Correct me if I’m wrong, is Slate not Amazon backed? No judgement either way, I just know that rubs some lemmings the wrong way

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    • Credibly_Human@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Oh don’t worry, it isn’t! Its just backed by Jeff Bezos himself…

      Yeah…

      This world sucks, and sometimes you gotta make some shitty pragmatic choices. I would judge someone harshly for a Tesla but less so for Slate given that 1. Jeff isn’t so openly racist so much as being a greedy bastard of a human being, and 2. Slate is backed by him but not fully owned by him.

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      • spankinspinach@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Ah the fun of the world we live in…

        Yeah 100%, I’m fully on board with your reasoning. I’m continuously arguing with myself over a Bronco or a Tacoma (only modern backcontry capable vehicles with manuals I’m aware of), so I do NOT have a moral high ground here haha

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    • Bgugi@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      My understanding that the “Amazon backed” was a comparatively small portion of the funding, and largely to generate an air of legitimacy for the normies.

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      • spankinspinach@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Absolutely fair, the more I know. Thanks for the clarification!

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  • winkerjadams@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You don’t need software developers for a button

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    • some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You need someone to figure out how to get the car to interpret that button press. Whether it’s an electrical engineer or a dev doesn’t make too much difference to the argument.

      the software route actually makes a bit more sense at scale, as you can abstract all the same functions into the car’s computer regardless of what human interface device is activating that function.

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    • ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      While you do not need software devs for a button, once you have enough buttons doing enough things controlling them with a computer becomes much easier than controlling them using mechanical analog circuitry. This is the whole reason for SBCs like the Arduino, so people can make the transitionary step between “my project is simple enough to have physical logic built into it” and “my project is so complex it no longer makes sense for me to hand build the logic”

      If you haven’t messed with physical logic gates before, I recommend it! If you don’t have a physical workspace to do it in, Minecraft actually Makes a ‘great’ sandbox for playing with logic circuits. Superflat Creative worlds are the bomb for that.

      Start with a simple yes gate, then learn a not gate, then an And, then an Or, and build up from there!

      You’ll find very quickly that once you need persistence involved, projects with physical logic can scale massively with each additional bit of storage added. Doing something with that storage? Good luck! As a result, nowadays we pay someone for a tiny computer they already made, and program it to make our buttons do stuff, instead of just having the buttons do stuff directly.

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    • MyNameIsRichard@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Depends on how the button works

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• scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Same, I recently looked for vehicles and this was an option we desperately wanted. We have a great ev now that’s tiny and efficient, but a small truck would have been great

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• spankinspinach@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I think Toyota just teased an EV Hilux

  Someone pointed out the shape is very Tacoma-esque, so maybe an EV Toyota quarter ton is on the way

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