they won’t stop until they are deposed.
archchan@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
If we have the will to fight this every 5 minutes, we should have the will to make it so we don’t keep having to. Winning the same battle over and over isn’t victory; it’s just giving the enemy more time and opportunity to define the terms of your defeat.
This is getting comically ridiculous and I’m tired, but I suppose that’s the point.
umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
ripcord@lemmy.world 1 day ago
OK so how do we do that
kylian0087@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
A law banning the entire attempt to even crate such laws.
ftbd@feddit.org 21 hours ago
Make it mandatory to institute a 5 year trial phase, during which encryption is broken only for politicians and public servants
anzo@programming.dev 22 hours ago
Imho, a Linux phone would help. Banning encryption is only possible because of GAFAM and their tie over “our” devices. Like android phones loosing sideloading. Meanwhile snikket.org would be a very illegal app in such dystopian future.
EldenLord@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
snikket.org
based
gian@lemmy.grys.it 1 day ago
Switch to mesh networks could be an idea. It is not that difficult to send messages with bluetooth, problem is adoption: a system like that works only if there are many people using it.
Jason2357@lemmy.ca 14 hours ago
I would be terrified of using a bluetooth mesh network in a situation where private, encrypted communications are illegal. That would be literally walking around transmitting your intent. It’s a great idea in a free country though.
In a dystopia, you want to blend in. Something like deltachat has the right idea there - you have to look like boring email on the network. Maybe even layer on stenography -sending boring emails with cat pictures, but your messages are hidden inside them.
Honestly, I would probably go with sneakernet. A microsd card can be hidden very easily, are difficult to detect electronically, transport virtually unlimited text, and be encrypted in-case the mule gets caught to prevent networks being exposed. The latency is just a necessary evil.
gian@lemmy.grys.it 13 hours ago
I would be terrified of using a bluetooth mesh network in a situation where private, encrypted communications are illegal. That would be literally walking around transmitting your intent. It’s a great idea in a free country though.
You have a point but that would means that the only other solution is to fall back to personal comunications, every electronic channel is unusable in such situation.
In a dystopia, you want to blend in.
Or you can simply have so much irrelevant data that the few important bits are lost in a sea of randomness if you don’t know where to look.
Something like deltachat has the right idea there - you have to look like boring email on the network. Maybe even layer on stenography -sending boring emails with cat pictures, but your messages are hidden inside them.
The main point of using bluetooth is to not rely on a centralized server that can be compromised and/or shut down.
If you still use email as transportation layer you could just write an app that really has e2ee, plausible deniability or any other feature you want since in the end you are relying on the same centralized infrastructure.Honestly, I would probably go with sneakernet. A microsd card can be hidden very easily, are difficult to detect electronically, transport virtually unlimited text, and be encrypted in-case the mule gets caught to prevent networks being exposed. The latency is just a necessary evil.
The latency is not the problem, it is already known that to move large quantities of data the fastest method is to send an hard drive (or whatever else).
The real problem here is where the mule can go.
RalfWausE@blackneon.net 21 hours ago
And THIS is the problem. How long is PGP / GPG around? I have vivid (and fond) memories of a time in the early 00s when we did encryption parties inviting normal people to help them install GPG and teach them how to encrypt their emails. And people came to these events! We had an event in a community centre where we did over 200 installs on laptops of “average Joes / Janes” in a single day.
But somehow, interest in private communication fizzled out over the last decade or so.
Jason2357@lemmy.ca 14 hours ago
On the other hand, we live in a golden age of private, end-to-end encrypted communications tools. There are literally too many to list here. The problem is our end-points are extremely vulnerable to surveillance now.
Also, the PGP web of trust was a pretty terrible idea for anyone concerned about authoritarian governments. Especially “key parties” that network based on government IDs. They also barely worked in practice anyway. Web-key discovery actually has decent UX, despite being tied to a purchased domain rather than a drivers license. It works fine for people you don’t know, but know by their domain. For people you know, exchanging keys via QR code or verifying keys via some hash out of band has become standard.
Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
It is the point. It should be a won war not just a won battle. And I, personally, am already preparing for the final loss. Which is inevitable IMHO.