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michaelmrose@lemmy.world 4 months agoIt’s not a bad argument technique to pull out the actual primary document and examine it. You can take small portions of a document in a fair minded fashion and examine it without deliberately being misleading or taking it out of context.
“You can take small portions of a document in a fair minded fashion and examine it without deliberately being misleading or taking it out of context.”
This is literally what’s happening here though, there’s a whole ass comment explaining this quote I’d out of context that I responded to originally.
The explanation is bubkis historical re-imagining like when the media sane washes the babble that comes out of Trump’s mouth. He’ll spend 15 minutes babbling about how he thinks magnets work and they report hurr durr somewhere in there he said lower taxes.
It is not historical reimagining to explain what the context of this letter is. Timothy was sent to Ephesus to help the church there which was struggling with the people due to the church’s opposing position on several things that were culturally relevant to the Ephesians, like sex, monogamy, and prostitution. Paul, allegedly, wrote the Timothy letters to him at this time with this context in mind.
Ok even if that explanation is bubkis it’s still to my point that using Bible quotes goes nowhere because you’re using the root delusion to attempt to disprove their personal delusions.
You’d be better off quoting Harry potter or anything else that they haven’t already decided the meaning of or integrated into their personality.
TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world 4 months ago
You aren’t bring fair minded about it or examining it in context.
turdcollector69@lemmy.world 4 months ago
That’s unfortunately most interactions I’ve had on reddit and Lemmy.
I think most people just want to comment to be right about something rather than communicate anything valuable.
TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world 4 months ago
It’s sad because they aren’t curious about nuance and polarize it instantly. So it’s impossible to reorient to those more interesting qualities. Doing so is a rhetorical mistake. So we’re left with not leaving a comment or engaging in an unnecessarily polarized discussion.