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save_the_humans@leminal.space 4 hours agoMore like every time there’s been democratically elected socialists or communists, western powers intervene with staged coups, assisinations, or embargos.
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save_the_humans@leminal.space 4 hours agoMore like every time there’s been democratically elected socialists or communists, western powers intervene with staged coups, assisinations, or embargos.
DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
Even if that’s true, so what? Immortality being impossible does not make the recipe from my example any more useful. You are just pointing out one possible reason why communism doesn’t work in reality. Still doesn’t work.
tomi000@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
This is like saying the idea of solar panels is bad because capitalists work against them to destroy their reputation. Judging a system based on the assumption that theres someone else trying to destroy it is very simple minded.
DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
A political system is not some random piece of infrastructure, like a solar panel. It’s more comparable to a padlock. It’s entire point is to manage human nature. If all people were benevolent and willing to work for collective good on their own, we wouldn’t need political systems at all. Neither would we need padlocks. A padlock that can’t hinder an intruder is a bad padlock. A political system that can’t handle human nature (greed, lust for power) is a bad political system.
mang0@lemmy.zip 2 hours ago
In many of these cases, the political system which couldn’t withstand coups were democracies. Does this mean that democracy isn’t useful? Are you saying that democracies should forbid socialists from being elected since if they get elected then america will intervene and the democracy will cease to be useful? Sounds like you don’t care for democracy and self-determination of nations. Bonus points will be awarded for being able to make your point without a potion metaphor.
DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
My entire point is that political systems like democracies are not isolated from economic systems. Democracies fail when combined with communism, because all power is concentrated in the political apparatus.