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DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

This “GFW” is so lame. FYI, I could literally just call my aunts in China right now and tell them about everything happening in the west. I mean my parents and my aunts talk all the time on phone calls.

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jaxxed@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
The GFW is famed, not only for monitoring in and outgoing IP traffic, but also for precenting outgoing access to information services. Broadly, access to information considered harmful to the CCP is restricted.

I’ve not heard much about phone/telephony calls being blocked.

What do your aunties use to talk? Regular telephones or signal?

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Buelldozer@lemmy.today ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
The GFW is about logging, mining, and controlling Internet traffic and data but your comment is about phone calls. These two things are only loosely related.

The article purports that the GFW is able to track electronic documents so closely that it can tie them to an actual individual. Assuming that’s true it positively refutes the notion that the GFW is “futile”. If the article and data leak are accurate then we also have proof that the GFW has the capability to detect many kinds of VPN and potentially decrypt the data streams. That is not “futile”, it’s scary AF.

Specific to phone calls you and your Aunties can chatter about whatever you like but there’s a strong possibility that those calls are being recorded, transcribed, and reviewed by automated systems for potential real world action. We know that the American NSA has this capability so it’s a near certainty that the Chinese Government does as well.

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altkey@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
The sense of security is what makes the tongues talk and the users browse, them incriminating themselves openly. Overly violent law that puts everyone in the grey zone allows you to pick anyone you want at any time and jail them. Government/party structure of any size is pretty much unable to track everyone 24/7, so while it’s seemingly a compromise from the idealistic vision of the great firewall, it is better to control a thing that organically rise with or without your involvement. If it could’ve been inpenetrateable, we could’ve heard of alternative systems appearing, but there you see none of these, at least for average consumers. It is there, and while it’s not overingineered, it’s enough to make 50% of safe, normie people give up and other 50% marks itself, and, unless everything is e2e encrypted, writes it’s court cases for itself.

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