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Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

I played a negotiation game of spending two weeks of research to explain to my company that I should be paid $165k, based on roles similar to me.

They said, “Well those are in expensive cities.” And I said, “They’re all remote jobs. And they’re all hiring.”

They came to the table with 155k, which was 30k more than a month prior. The scary part was a few months later, fucking Musk fired a bunch of Twitter people, and triggered the layoffs. So now I can’t do that negotiation again.

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Obi@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Gottem.

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MajorHavoc@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

So now I can’t do that negotiation again.

You can and you should. Musk’s layoffs and the ones that followed are a coordinated press campaign. The total impact on unemployment of IT professional programmers was a tenth or a percentage.

Yes. Companies are hiring slower right now because there’s less venture capital money sloshing around, but they’re accumulating company-ending-event technology debt while they do it.

Mark my words they will be desperate for your talents and paying accordingly soon. I predict another big hike in base pay as the game of chicken ends in a mad scramble. We will also see more companies paying long term consulting rates instead of staff rates for IT solutions.

Source: As a developer who hires developers, I’m watching this trainwreck from both sides of the track.

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- thisisnotgoingwell@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  I’ve heard from some friends/family that are trying to break into entry level cybersecurity or programming roles and it’s extremely difficult right now, why do you think there seems to be such a high demand for skilled workers but seemingly no demand for entry level?
  
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  - MajorHavoc@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    That is correct. It’s really always been like that.
    
    There’s far fewer IT organizations that can safely hire rookies than there are rookies in the field. The correct solution for employers is to get better at their setup so that they can hire rookies, but that’s a genuinely difficult challenge that many organizations simply don’t have the leadership will or savy to solve.
    
    I’m still incredibly thankful to my first boss for taking a risk giving me a chance to break into the field.
    
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  - Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Entry level jobs have ALWAYS been difficult for new engineers.
    
    Name a year from 2005-2023, and I can find you a news article that says that it’s difficult for entry level.
    
    Talk to any dev and they’ll explain how challenging it was to get into the industry, and they’ll give you tips.
    
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