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Comment on Australian households to get free electricity three hours a day

I’m pretty sure is VPP enabled meaning the power company can steal your power and charge you for the privilege.

With a VPP you are paid for exporting power from your battery to the grid when there are price peaks.

You get money for doing this and if enough people do it the price spikes flatten down saving everyone on the grid money.

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FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
www.solarquotes.com.au/blog/vpps-have-pros-cons/

Also the government recently made it legal for power companies to charge you for your exports, which you need to be on a VPP for them to do, and at the same time the government is incentivising everyone to get a smart meter, on a VPP, and solar and batteries……

Coincidence?

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- Eyekaytee@aussie.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  I don’t get it
  
  the power company can steal your power and charge you for the privilege
  
  If you export power to the grid, you are paid for it
  
  The whole reason to join a VPP, is so you get paid for exporting power during CRITICAL peak events
  
  I know, because I have now been on 2 VPP’s
  
  One with Sonnen, where they paid me $15 a month for being on standby to charge during peak events and Globird ZeroHero:
  
  ZEROLIMITS (Optional add-on): Take your earnings to the next level Get $1/kWh on exports during wholesale critical events, plus other critical event credits
  
  www.globirdenergy.com.au/energy-saver/zerohero/
  
  Nobody is signing up to a VPP to donate their power and get nothing for it
  
  Also the government recently made it legal for power companies to charge you for your exports, which you need to be on a VPP for them to do
  
  Where did you read this?
  
  The charge for exports is for SOLAR during the MIDDLE of the DAY because there is TOO MUCH solar
  
  Solar energy exports are reaching levels in some parts of the grid during the 10am – 3pm period that they are becoming difficult to manage and could potentially pose a threat to network stability. Export charges applied during this window will act as a signal to system owners to self-consume more of the energy they generate during this time.
  
  solarquotes.com.au/…/debunking-sun-tax-mb2941/
  
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  - FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    Sorry I’m out at the shops and wrangling the kids at the moment, so will do a full reply later.
    
    Solar feed in charges: repositpower.com/…/the-solar-tax-has-arrived-now-…
    
    What is happening now doesn’t matter, as it’s all going to radically change as the AEMO plan states that 60% of all grid storage is home battery storage, and that the power companies draw from this at will - and they’re not going to pay for it. Power companies are in the business of making money, and politicians are in their back pockets for those sweet lobbying dollars and post-politics executive jobs.
    
    To make all this work they need everyone with smart meters, and solar and batteries. What they’re doing now is getting everyone to get them installed via incentives, so when everyone has them they can start stealing your power and charge you for it and there’s nothing you can do.
    
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    Eyekaytee@aussie.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    
    Solar feed in charges:
    
    yes as i said and from your own link
    
    Solar export tariffs are designed to stop solar being exported to the grid when there is a lot of sunshine about. That means that solar panel owners should put in place things that soak up their solar generation.
    
    there is currently too much cheap renewable power going to the grid during the day
    
    the AEMO plan states that 60% of all grid storage is home battery storage, and that the power companies draw from this at will - and they’re not going to pay for it
    
    no it doesn’t
    
    The claim that “60% of all grid storage is home battery storage, and that power companies draw from this at will—and they’re not going to pay for it” is a significant oversimplification and, in some respects, a misrepresentation of AEMO’s plans and the current state of Australia’s energy market.
    
    What AEMO actually says:
    
    AEMO’s Integrated System Plan (ISP) does highlight the growing importance of distributed energy resources, including home batteries, as part of Australia’s future energy mix. The plan envisions a future where consumer energy resources (CER), such as rooftop solar and home batteries, play a major role in supporting the grid, especially as coal plants retire and renewable energy capacity expands. By 2050, AEMO expects a massive increase in both rooftop solar and battery storage, with home batteries potentially helping to avoid billions in grid investment costs—if they are “well coordinated” .
    
    The key here is “well coordinated.” AEMO and the energy market are exploring ways to integrate home batteries into the grid through mechanisms like Virtual Power Plants (VPPs), where households can choose to participate and may receive incentives or payments for allowing their batteries to be used to support the grid during peak times. Participation is voluntary, and households are not forced to give up control of their batteries without compensation .
    
    There is no current policy or plan that allows power companies to unilaterally “draw from” home batteries without the owner’s consent or compensation. Any use of home batteries for grid support would typically be part of a formal agreement, such as a VPP program, where participants are compensated for their contribution
    
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