Comment on ICE's 'Frightening' Facial Recognition App is Scanning US Citizens Without Their Consent
lightnsfw@reddthat.com 2 weeks agoNo, they are law enforcement and should be readily identifiable the community they serve. Including their face. Also being masked makes it harder for the people they’re interacting with to understand what they’re saying. They lose all the non-verbal communication that comes from the face. Them being masked has absolutely zero upside to the public.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
I don’t think this is necessary. What does seeing an officer’s face do that a name and badge number doesn’t? What about undercover cops? What about the winter when it’s cold?
I think it should only be required that they declare on what authority they’re acting when making official actions, like a stop, detainment, or arrest. They should give their name and badge number upon request, in a form that works for the asker (written or verbal, asker’s preference).
If we ban law enforcement from wearing masks, that opens the door to banning masks in public. I get that police should follow higher standards, but IMO the rules should merely be that police must self identify in a way the public knows they’re legitimate law enforcement when using the authority of their position.
lightnsfw@reddthat.com 2 weeks ago
Witnesses who are too far away to see their identification can still see their face to ID them. Undercover cops are a different situation than what ICE is doing and really shouldn’t be making arrests IMO. In winter they can take their mask off to interact with people.
It doesn’t. The general public doesn’t need to be identifiable at all times like cops do.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Sure, I just don’t think that’s a reasonable thing to require at all times.
Instead, the public should be free to approach to a safe distance to film, and then attempt to talk with law enforcement when safe. A police officer is required to identify themselves to the suspect due to the fourth amendment. Whether they are required to identify themselves to the public is up to local law, court precedent, and agency policy.
Neither do. Police only need to be identifiable when using their authority, such as when making an arrest or dealing with protests, and in the latter case, only agency affiliation is necessary.
lightnsfw@reddthat.com 2 weeks ago
It is. There’s literally no reason they ever need to be masked.
Disagree. Police serve the public. If they are working they should all be identifiable so they can’t step out of line. Especially during protests. Exceptions being made for specific circumstances where they are undercover.