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Comment on YSK that risks to exposure of nuclear radition are often over exaggerated by considering a Linear No Threshold (LNT), which does not match with many studies.

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Tudsamfa@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

I’m pretty sure it’s not subsidies, but safety standards. I’m not trying to pretend to understand Lazards “levelized cost of electricity”, and their graphs are seem to be off by 20 or I don’t read them correctly, but they are at least very clear that subsidies are taken out when they make their comparison. Nuclear is still the most expensive no matter how you slice it (except rooftop residential solar, but I think that gets around paying energy providers or something). Anyway, I’m more willing to trust them than the world nuclear association on if nuclear is price competitive.

I’ll grant you a better argument for next time: Nuclear is incredibly safe compared to other energy sources, but is uniquely held to a way higher safety standard than anything else. And reducing the cost of nuclear by reducing safety standards actually is unpopular, so politicians don’t do it and the cost keeps rising.

I’d still disagree on loosening safety restrictions, but at least that would be true.

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Cethin@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

I’d still disagree on loosening safety restrictions, but at least that would be true, instead of blaming subsidies.

Why not? I’m assuming you watched the video in the OP. A lot of the safety standards are based on a model that just doesn’t work. It’s all designed to keep dirty energy more profitable. Why do you disagree with removing standards that are unnecessary? I’m assuming you do agree there is some unnecessary regulations, right?

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sga@piefed.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

And reducing the cost of nuclear by reducing safety standards actually is unpopular

i have said the same in other comment, but we are not suggesting raise the limits, but make it to public that tiny amounts of radiation is not bad. so someone who protests building a nuclear power plant because they get an additional 1mSv of radiation (safe limitt currently is aroun 5mSv), it does not mean their risk of getting cancer has increased by 20% or something.

in case there is a small nuclear spill away, there is no need to a town/state wide lockdown, which completey brings all economic activity of that state to halt. plus the paranoia, and additional cost to handle increased medical vists. i am not trying to normalise spillaways, just that if it is contained, then there is no need to be paranoid.

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- Tudsamfa@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Sorry, that part was not meant to imply you specifically want to reduce safety standards, just that if you want to have it be competitive on the energy market, you would have to do something about that, or subsidise it by an absurd amount.
  
  But the point still stands, nuclear energy is expensive, and it’s not because of subsidies to other energy sources. Please don’t claim so next time.
  
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