I mean some of them legit do (cough Fetterman), and a lot just don’t particularly care about stopping it, but that’s beside the point, I know the kind of people you’re actually talking about. There is still value in electing the lesser evil, and pushing to get better and more progressive Dems in office (that are usually better at pushing back against fascism anyways)
And yet still, somewhere out there, there is a fake or brain dead leftist spouting on about how democrats support genocide.
“Chemo makes me sick, so Ill stick with Cancer”
astropenguin5@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
Credibly_Human@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
know the kind of people you’re actually talking about. There is still value in electing the lesser evil, and pushing to get better and more progressive Dems in office (that are usually better at pushing back against fascism anyways)
This is exactly my point. The democrats have huge AIPAC backing and support some awful things, but they are fucking saints compared to the only other options in this political system.
They are the only potential vehicles for long term change and stability exactly the way you described.
Progressive candidates have to be winning primaries despite swimming upstream, and democrats have to continue winning federally despite the bad taste (chemo) they put in your mouth.
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 hours ago
In case you haven’t noticed, the system in place now in the US became what it is today under both Republican and Democrat Administrations.
One has to be a tribalist useful idiot to deny that “their side” has done as much to create a Surveillance State as the “other” side - amongst those few things which have bipartisan support in the US are strengthening of police powers and erosion of privacy.
The comparison with most of Europe (with notable exceptions such as Britain and Russia) is very telling: it absolutely is possible to have low crime without reckless invasion of privacy, draconian police powers and a pay-to.pay Judicial System.