Comment on Sam Altman Says If Jobs Gets Wiped Out, Maybe They Weren’t Even “Real Work” to Start With

6nk06@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

• kescusay@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Yeah, I have never spent “days” setting anything up. Anyone who can’t do it without spending “days” struggling with it is not reading the documentation.

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  • HarkMahlberg@kbin.earth ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Ever work in an enterprise environment? Sometimes a single talented developer cannot overcome the calcification of hundreds of people over several decades who care more about the optics of work than actual work. Documentation cannot help if its non-existent/20 years old. Documentation cannot make teams that don't believe in automation, adopt Docker.

    Not that I expect Sam Altman to understand what it's like working in a dumpster fire company, his only job is to just pour the gasoline.

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    • killeronthecorner@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Dumpster fire companies are the ones he’s targeting because they’re the mostly like to look for quick and cheap ways to fix the symptoms of their problems, and most likely to want to replace their employees with automations.

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  • galaxy_nova@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    You guys are getting documentation?

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    • kescusay@lemmy.world ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Well, if I’m not, then neither is an LLM.

      But for most projects built with modem tooling, the documentation is fine, and they mostly have simple CLIs for scaffolding a new application.

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      • galaxy_nova@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I mean if you use the code base you’re working in as context it’ll probably learn the code base faster than you will, although I’m not saying that’s a good strategy, I’d never personally do that

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  • vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Sometimes documentation is inconsistent.

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• mriormro@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Have you ever built anything with your hands that mattered?

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  • Bo7a@piefed.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I know this was aimed at someone else. But my response is "Every day." What is your follow-up question?

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  • 6nk06@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Yes. How is it relevant to moderne SWE practices?

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    • mriormro@lemmy.zip ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      OP wrote 10 paragraphs and your head is still in devland.

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• nucleative@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  If your argument attacks my credibility, that’s fine, you don’t know me. We can find cases where developers use the technology and cases where they refuse.

  Do you have anything substantive to add to the discussion about whether AI LLMs are anything more than just a tool that allows workers to further abstract, advancing all of the professions it can touch towards any of: better / faster / cheaper / easier?

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  • HarkMahlberg@kbin.earth ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Yeah, I've got something to add. The ruling class will use LLMs as a tool to lay off tens of thousands of workers to consolidate more power and wealth at the top.

    LLMs also advance no profession at all while it can still hallucinate and be manipulated by it's owners, producing more junk that requires a skilled worker to fix. Even my coworkers have said "if I have to fix everything it gives me, why didn't I just do it myself?"

    LLMs also have dire consequences outside the context of labor. Because of how easy they are to manipulate, they can be used to manufacture consent and warp public consciousness around their owners' ideals.

    LLMs are also a massive financial bubble, ready to pop and send us into a recession. Nvidia is shoveling money into companies so they can shovel it back into Nvidia.

    Would you like me to continue on about the climate?

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  • criss_cross@lemmy.world ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    You seem to be taking this a bit personally…

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