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• SuluBeddu@feddit.it ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  “Those in control” should be the workers, otherwise it’s not socialism, no matter how dictators like to call themselves

  “Everyone treated like crap except those in control” applies to capitalism too, especially in colonised countries

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  • Mickey7@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    So based on your comment there has never been a socialist government. Though all attempts to achieve “workers in control” have failed. But I guess we should keep trying. Or maybe that saying about doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result is correct.

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    • SuluBeddu@feddit.it ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      If you are interested on contemporary socialist economy professors talking about the experiences in the soviet union and in China, there are some, Richard Wolff is a nice one to start with. He carefully explains concepts of Marxism and to what extent they were applied in various cases, but then focuses on what current socialists advocate for.

      If you want working examples of non-capitalist systems, that are sorts of socialist systems, we have worker coops such as the Mondragon coop in Spain, or the Democratic Confederalism of Kurdistan

      If you are not interested in learning anything of socialism past what billionaires’ propaganda tells you, you are very free to do so

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      • Mickey7@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Ironic how even though these “successful” socialist societies are paradise … no one is leaving capitalist countries to go live in these paradise countries

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