Comment on Tesla reintroduces 'Mad Max' Full Self-Driving mode that breaks speed limits

• Aeao@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  1. I never said Tesla or google. Only self driving cars. Tesla didn’t invent the concept nor do they own it.

  2. then don’t get involved with self driving cars. Just walk, problem solved.

  3. companies are a thing. It’s who we buy stuff from. You’re going to have to get used to that.

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  • boonhet@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    1. Monopolies are a thing and the first few to the market with self driving systems will be ubiquitous. You can’t avoid it. Waymo/Google will license their solution to car manufacturers, who will be stuck with it because it’s going to be very expensive to get their own self driving certified in all their target markets.
    2. Yes, let’s limit everyone to either walking/cycling, public transit, or megacorporation control over their freedom of movement. There’s certainly not a western government currently rounding up dissidents that would just tell their beloved corporations to drive people with certain backgrounds to Alligator Alcatraz.
    3. Yes, but why are we giving them even more control over our lives voluntarily? Especially since we’re talking about something that can literally lock its doors and drive you to somewhere you didn’t want to go.

    I’ve never been much of a conspiracy nut, but this is where I agree with them. I don’t want government and corporations to say when and where I can go. Walking is an option for me 90% of the time, and one I take very often, but what if I literally need to fucking escape an invasion? Considering it’s happening right now, 4 countries south of me, and said invader has demonstrated that they love taking down communications networks, what the fuck options am I going to have left if I need to drive 1000 km in a day and my car’s like “No Internet connection, I’m staying put”? If you’re in the US you don’t have THAT risk, but you still have the whole issue of a dictator being able to decide where you’re driving. Public transit is great, but it’s not ready for mass surges of people fleeing and if someone’s after you personally, it creates choke points (stations) where it’s easy to grab you. I’m not saying cars are super hard to track, but when there are a lot of targets, everyone being spread out means it’s harder to get a lot of people at once.

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    • Aeao@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      1. we used to have a system that broke up monopolies and with current hatred of these large businesses we will be going back to that very soon.

      2. lol. How dare I limit people to only: walking, biking, sailing, flying, skipping, horse/camel riding, electric scooter, electric bIke, piggy back rides, surf, skateboard, crawl, pogo stick, Tobagon, dog sled, horse carriage, astral projection…I’ve taken exactly one option away. You can’t drive yourself because it’s dangerous. You can’t eat human meat how dare they limit you to only a few options of meat! C’mon man I’m not buying that.

      3. I don’t know, why DO we constantly give corporations more control over our lives? Why do you want to fix that by stopping something objectively good? That’s like saying you want more free speech but you’re starting with the n-word. It feels disingenuous. If you don’t want them to have that power… BUILD YOUR OWN. Btw we are currently in the step. “Lock it doors and drive yourself where you don’t want to go” that happens all the time in people driven cars as well. Maybe we should make laws against kidnapping people… oh wait it is already illegal.

      People flee war zones now without the aid of cars, highways get clogged with traffic… which would be impossible if the cars drove themselves! It would be easier to evacuate people with self driving cars.

      I’m not buying your arguments.

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