Comment on The most valuable advertising keywords could be "ublock origin"

• chloroken@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  This is false. Vivaldi is on manifest v3 and runs its own internal rat race against ads. uBlock origin is neutered under Vivaldi just like all Chromium-based browsers.

  The idea that you’re satisfied on a downstream Chromium product but won’t try downstream Firefox products is confusing. Librewolf is nearly best in class and domintes Vivaldi in almost every relevant metric.

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  • Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Can you please explain in what way uBlock Origin is neutered under Vivaldi?

    Note that I am, despite your assertion, using the full uBlock Origin, not the Google-friendly uBlock Origin Lite. Proof: Image

    I suspect you may simply be confidently incorrect, but I’d be interested to learn in what way uBlock Origin has been neutered.

    You are also incorrect with your assertion that I “won’t try downstream Firefox products”. I stated that I used Librewolf for months, but finally had to drop it as the tradeoffs for privacy vs compatibility were prohibitive for my use case.

    I’d also love to see the “relevant metrics” to which you refer, please.

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    • cypherpunks@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Note that I am, despite your assertion, using the full uBlock Origin, not the Google-friendly uBlock Origin Lite

      Seeing your screenshot I was curious how that works, so I spent a minute searching and found this post from June 2024 where Vivaldi says:

      We will keep Manifest v2 for as long as it’s still available in Chromium. We expect to drop support in June 2025, but we may maintain it longer or be forced to drop support for it sooner, depending on the precise nature of the changes to the code.

      In my quick search I didn’t find anything more recent about their schedule for dropping it, so I guess (assuming your software is up-to-date?) they haven’t dropped it yet but presumably will do soon.

      But in any case, Vivaldi is proprietary/closed-source, so, I recommend against using it.

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      • Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Manifest v2 extensions are still very much working in Vivaldi. I’m on version “7.6.3797.63 (Stable channel) stable (64-bit)” which is the version currently available for download directly from vivaldi.com.

        I still want to try Floorp and Zen Browser before I settle on a for-now browser though. Eventually I’d like to be on something Servo-based, but Gecko would be preferable for now if I can find one that works for me.

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    • chloroken@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Do you just, not know anything about Manifest at all? I mean I know this whole thing is vibes-based for you, given the shit you’re saying, but aren’t you embarrassed to not even look up Manifest before posting?

      If Vivaldi has hacked a v2 port together, it won’t last long. No uBo will work on Chromium browsers. Why the fuck do you think Brave and Vivaldi are spending so much effort making their own tools?

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      • Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        So you’re not going to answer my questions. Understood.

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• TrickDacy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  It’s also anti-open web since it’s just chromium. Nothing superior for your privacy over Firefox.

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  • Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Please don’t put words in my mouth. I didn’t claim it was “superior for privacy”. What I said was it appears to be the least-bad option for my specific use case right now.

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    • TrickDacy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Okay. Not sure what “shady stuff” means, but Chromium is certainly worse for the user in any way I can interpret as “shady”.

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      • chloroken@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        It’s vibes all the way down.

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