Comment on New Rules Could Force Tesla to Redesign Its Door Handles. That’s Harder Than It Sounds

• artyom@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I think having an electric popper on top of an mechanical door latch is okay

  The problem with having both is that the electronic one is always the primary one, and the one people will use daily. In particular Tesla hides the mechanical ones really well. So in an emergency situation, people panic and have no idea where it is or how to use it.

  Same way electric locks have worked

  Electric locks actually serve a purpose though. And they’re not a danger to passengers inside. What purpose do electric door locks serve? Other than being more prone to failure and costing more money.

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  • Jason2357@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    The purpose of the electric latch is to save the frameless window panes. It can lower the window slightly in the instant before it opens, to break the seal and avoid torsion on the glass.

    Now, frameless windows are stupid and not necessary, so theres that. One dumb idea propagates another.

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    • Zak@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      This doesn’t pass a sanity check.

      A mechanical handle that actuates when deflected 30 degrees can trip a microswitch at 10 degrees to slightly open the window.

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      • Anivia@feddit.org ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        That’s exactly how they work in Mercedes cars

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    • artyom@piefed.social ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      You don’t need an electric latch to have frameless windows. Pretty much every car before with frameless windows did not have them.

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  • Prove_your_argument@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    What purpose do electric door locks serve? Other than being more prone to failure, more expensive, and dangerous?

    An oligarch’s fancy?

    I’m sure in product meetings it’s been brought up that it’s a dumb thing and they could save money and make the cars safer by not having them, then the oligarch speaks up.

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  • magic_smoke@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    The problem with having both is that the electronic one is always the primary one, and the one people will use daily.

    Yeah that’s the design flaw. Thats literally what im saying they shouldn’t do. You can make a mechanical-first door with an internal solenoid thats capable of popping the door.

    The main and only handles on the doors should be mechanical, with door popper buttons for all four doors on the driver-side arm rest (where window controls go)

    What purpose do electric door handles serve? Other than being more prone to failure, more expensive, and dangerous?

    This allows the driver to open doors for passengers, while also making the main way in and out NOT dependent on electronics.

    Unnecessary luxury? Sure, but so are cars in a lot of the world. Its cheap to implement and not inherently a danger when done right.

    Your issue isn’t electronically controlled door poppers. Its cars being made by silicone valley, y-combinator sucking, tech-bro douchebags.

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