This isn’t the 20th century. We get a LOT more deliveries these days, and a lot of them are expensive small electronics, like phones. They sit there on our front step all day , while we are at work, tempting porch pirates.
About the only thing keeping those jackals from stealing EVERYTHING, is the fact that they know there are cameras on the house, and also most of the houses surrounding the target. That scares off all but the most desperate thieves.
Peep holes are the most basic security precaution, but they are severely limited. They are distorted, and can be easily beaten by ducking. You may look out and see one guy, while three more are below the peep hole. They don’t record, so there is no evidence to identify troublemakers later. They can’t be accessed remotely, so you can’t see who is messing with your house while you’re out.
To extend your logic, we shouldn’t use cars, because bicycles did the job just fine. Or phones, because we could just yell to our neighbors. Or stoves, because open fires cook food good enough. Or computers, because writing on paper always worked fine. For that matter, why use ballpoint pens, when a quill pen always worked good enough.
Why bother to improve?
stickly@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Lacking a secure drop off point is a service issue between you and the company delivering the package. It’s just as possible to install a lock box or a set a pickup point or require a signed delivery. Complain to Amazon if they’re too cheap to do anything about porch piracy. The convenience of opening your door for a package doesn’t stand up to my right to privacy.
For the rest of your points: sure, if you really need a camera to watch your private porch then feel free to aim it at the porch and not the entire street. I’m not saying it should be illegal to monitor your property but that your right to 24/7 monitoring ends where your property line does.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
They already have porch lock boxes that deliver very guys seldom use. Amazon also has drop off boxes at local businesses.
Once again, the problem isn’t with the person who is justifiably concerned about their safety. The problem is Amazon collecting data without permission. Keep your focus on the actual problem, instead of attacking your fellow citizens.
stickly@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
No the problem is the cameras, full stop. You can’t shift the cultural safety norm to require millions of remotely accessible cameras and expect a company or government to not abuse them.
The only reason for the popularity of these cameras is big tech’s marketing and business strategy. Amazon made a shit ton of money throwing expensive stuff on your unattended doorstep. That leads to obvious problems and the only ways out are:
Even if they were concerned with data collection consent, there is no way to get it by the very nature of an always-on, public facing camera. And if it wasn’t that, it would be a fancy peephole.
I inherited one of these cameras on a previous home and it objectively provided no real value to me. It recorded the coming/going of my neighbors, bugs flying in front of it, visitors who had already texted their ETA, and delivery guys taking pictures that got sent to me seconds later.
The “peace of mind” factor quickly evaporated when the neighborhood feed was constant posts warning of homeless people or someone walking at night or anyone in a hoodie. Any post where there was a legitimate crime was someone in a mask covering the camera. So how exactly was it keeping anyone safe?
On the other hand, Amazon got incredible value from years of recording everyone’s movements. The fact that rubes will pay a few dollars a month to defray hosting costs for the goldmine of a 24/7 live stream is gravy.