Comment on Head of the Signal app threatens to withdraw from Europe

Treczoks@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

• KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

  I wish my instance supported down votes, just so that I could down vote this comment.

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• Valmond@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  We wouldn’t have a simple and secure way of communicating?

  The apple/Facebook alternatives are not good at all.

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  • sefra1@lemmy.zip ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Simplex, xmpp, deltachat briar, matrix, even session.

    Anything is better than signal that relies on a centralised proprietary server and requires a phone number.

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    • jonnylyy@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I hat talkingpoints like that. Sure Signal can be critiqued, but it’s still the best “mainstream” solution we have. And a lot of people would just stop using secure messanger when signal is gone. Including me because what is simplex worth for me when no one I know cares to switch?

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      • sefra1@lemmy.zip ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        My personal experience is that if I can convince someone to install signal I can also convince them to install simplex, the process is the same. If I can’t then they aren’t going to use anything but the popular spyware anyway.

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    • Valmond@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Sure, but tell my family that…

      Has any of those become like easy to install and use? To be fair I haven’t checked in some time…

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      • sefra1@lemmy.zip ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Simplex is really easy to install and use, unfortunately it’s still kinda buggy, specially with public relays, I personally don’t mind buggy, I’m willing to make sacrifices for the same of freedom and privacy.

        I just keep a second chat app as a failback so I can send them a message saying “ur simplex broke again, pls restart”

        Xmpp has been stable for decades, tho I guess otr/omemo is hard for family to install, also doesn’t support e2ee calls (or rather, it does, but it’s complicated). But I haven’t used xmpp in a long time.

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      • BlackSam@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        With DeltaChat you don’t even need an email address anymore, they provide it for you on the fly. They just ask your name if you (optionally) want to put it.

        Can’t be simpler than that tbh.

        If you want a better looking ui, check ArcaneChat for Android. It’s 100% compatible with DeltaChat protocol

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    • GreenMartian@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      requires a phone number

      That hasn’t been true for a while now.

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  • Treczoks@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The world does not end after apple or Facebook.

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